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Discussion for new cards to add; moderated by Rosie2167

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Check Stats listed below the Poll, then choose your Top 15

Poll ended at Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:34 pm

1. 2011 James Shields TB SP* Much needed upgrade for Rays limited ATG pitching staff. 249 ip 225 k 2.82 era 1.04 whip 11 Complete Games! 4 Shutouts! AL All-Star 3rd in Cy Young voting
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2. 1978 Bob Welch, RH S/R, Dodgers, 7-4 2.02 1.060. Career bests in ERA & HR9. Near career bests in WHIP, H9 & BB9. Welch's 1990 27 win card ($4.66 mil) does not do him justice.
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3. 1915 Ty Cobb. I know I know, another Cobb card. Yet, this was his highest single season OBP (.486) and his stolen base record (96) which would stand until 1962! It's a crime that this card is not already in the set.
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4.2018 Mike Trout Anaheim cf 1(-2)0
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5. 2001 Keith Foulke White Sox pitched 11 years no card. 81 innings, 42 saves, .975 WHIP
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6. 1987 Tim Raines MON LF (4L bal) Career high in HR (18), OBP (.429), and SLG (.526) https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802910/1680/1/80
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7. 2004 Brad Radke MIN SP. No cards yet. Underrated pitcher that threw during the Steroid Era where his numbers were inflated. 2nd all-time in WAR for Twins pitchers. 11-8, 219 IP, 3.48 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, just 26 walks and a 5.5 SO/W ratio.
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8. 1933 Wally Berger Braves OF
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9. 1962 Bobby Richardson NYY 2B - Yankee Great is poorly represented by current '61 and '64 cards. in 1962 he had career highs in BA (.302), H (209), 2B (38) plus HR & RBI in 692 AB (0 Inj.) along with 2nd best Fld Pct (.982)
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10. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero - AL MVP, 39hr's, .337 BA. In Cooperstown with and Angels hat, he should have one in this set too.
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11. 2009 Pablo Sandoval - .330 BA, 44 2Bs, 25 HRs, .556 Slg, switch hitting 3B - would be his first card in the set
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12. 1980 Jerry Reuss - 18-6, 2.51 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, after 21 seasons and 220 wins, needs a better card than the one in the set
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13. 2002 Magglio Ordonez-RF-2(-1)e4 - .320/.381/.597, 47 Doubles, 38 HRs Would be a nice add for the White Sox.
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14. 1962 Floyd Robinson - .312 / .384 /.475 45 Doubles, 109 RBIs; 10th in MVP voting; another nice Chisox postWW2 add
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15. 1979 Jim Kern- RP- TEX: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736351/1670/1/70
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16. 1914 Ray Caldwell SP/RP -NYY His best season 18-9, 1.94 ERA .958 WHIP. 5 HR in 213 IP
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17. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only.
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18. 1959 Charlie Neal, LA, 2b-1e10
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19.1889 Fred Carroll C, OF, 1b Pittsburgh NL- NO cards in set. BA: .330 OBP: 486 OPS:970 Should be a great leadoff card. 21 doubles 11Triples in 318 ABs 414 PAs.
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20.CIN Aroldis Chapman 2012 .8 whip 15Ks/9 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91475/2012/1/2012
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21. 1993 Juan Gonzalez, Texas 46 Homeruns, 310 .368 .632 Near identical overall stats to his current 8L card, but this card is balanced! Tons of power against lefties and righties. At all but 200M+ caps, this card will get the most usage of any of Juan's cards.
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22. 2009 Bronson Arroyo, Reds, RHP, 17 year vet, and solid back end rota guy, 2009 year hews close to career numbers: 15-13, 3.84, 220.1IP, 214 Hits, 31 HRA, 127 Ks, 65W, 1.266 WHIP. Should be a cheap starter. 2010 better, not as representative.
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23. 1998 Brad Ausmus Hou C
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24. 1976 Garry Maddox PHI Cf .330 .377 .833 OPS upgrade over current cards
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25. 1968 Bob Bolin SF SP(8) RP(4) 177 IP, 1.98 ERA, 126 K's, 46 BBs, 9 HRs allowed, 10-5 W-L record, could give Giants franchise either another starter or good middle reliever.
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26. 2018 Aaron Nola PHI 17-6 212.1IP 224 K’s 2.37 ERA 0.98 WHIP
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27. 1983 Willie Aikens KC 1b A big improvement over the 2 cards already in ATG. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/830082/1680/1/80
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28. 1973 Joe Morgan, CIN - 2b-1e10 (best fielding card) | L 4R | best stealing | + PLAYS ALL 162 GAMES (687 AB + Walks)
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29. 2007 Russell Martin LAD C average/power/speed defence and 600 PA as a catcher!
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30. 1912 Larry Gardner, BOS, Bats-L, E Balance 593PA. .315AVE .383OBP
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31. 1948 Ted Williams, BOS, Bats-L, E Balance, LF-3(-2)e6, 369/497/615 369/497/615 Hit Pctg of his OBP was highest of his career: 60%.
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32. 1948 Johnny Lindell, NYY, Bats-R, 3L Balance, LF-2(+1)e2, RF-3(+1)e2 Great platoon card vs LHP.
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33. 1977 Ted Simmons, STL, Bats-S, 1R Balance, C-3(0)e4, RF-4(+1)e16, better against RHP than current 4m cards
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34. 1919 Bobby Veach, DET, Bats L, E Balance, LF-2(-3)e13
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35. 1996 Mo Vaughn, BOS, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 1b-4e17, In Game INJ Risk Hit Dog needs a card worth using.
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36. 1912 Frank Baker, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-2e34, Steal: *3-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk 1.211 OPS 7th in MVP Voting. Led League in Home Runs and RBI.
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37. 1979 Steve Kemp DET, no card, Bats Left. LF-3(+1)e8, RF-4(+1)e8 1.147 OPS. Again, Kemp has no card.
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38. 1922 Charlie Hollocher SS Cubs .340 .403 .444 lefty hitting SS are rare in the set
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39. 2008 Matt Thornton, LHRP, White Sox 5-3 2.67 0.995 Career best ERA, WHIP. Near career bests in H9 & SO9. In White Sox badly need a good lefty Reliever https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90585/2008/1/20714
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40. 1977 George Hendrick, SD, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(-1)e8, Steal: *4,6/-(15-11). Plays all 3 OF positions well and helps Padres franchise.
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41. 1974 Bill Buckner - .314/.348/.412 2R balance. *18, 1-15 running. I did have another nomination in mind, but with Buckner's recent passing this became a priority for me. We need a card that represents Buckner when he could still run, and was an awesome fielder in LF!
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42. 2014 Pat Neshek, StL, RH RP. 7-2, 1.87 ERA, 6 saves. 67.1 IP, .787 WHIP, 195 ERA+. still active - has played with 7 teams. Quality RP representative of this modern era
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43. 1905 Mike Donlin BA 356 .413 .495 .908 OPS+ 167; 676 Plate Appearances; lead league in RS 124; lifetime .333 hitter with lifetime 142 OPS+; 33 Steals ;OPS for this season is almost 100 points above his current and only card in ATG.
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44. 2012 SS Alcides Escobar- KC Royals- Finally gives KC EXP a SS- AA stealer- 1e20
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45. 1993 Alex Fernandez, White Sox SP 18-9 3.13, WHIP 1.16.. franchise leagues that focus on exp era need more White SOX RHSP.. He was a solid pitcher in his career with the White Sox and Marlins
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46. 1935 Billy Rogell, DET, Bats R, E Balance, SS-2e24 Tigers shortstop in the 1930s, World Series in 1934 & 1935, 9 year DP combo with Charlie Gehringer. Has good OBP, would be a nice, cheap alternative in smaller cap leagues
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47. 1985 Rick Reuschel, Pirates 14-8 2.27 1.057 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9, SO9. Reuschel is another player with 200+ career wins, playing mostly with bad teams, who is deserving of a better card, and the Post War/Expansion Pirates desperately need more starting pitching.
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48. 1973 Steve Rogers, RH SP, 5L, Expos 10-5, 1.54 ERA, 1.060 WHIP, 6.2 H/9, 3.3 BB/9 Career long Expo, who despite 13 years with some really bad Expo teams, starting in 1973, somehow managed to go 158-152 during his career. Expos could use better starting pitching.
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49. 1977 Bob Watson, HOU, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 1b-3e10, 3 Game INJ Risk Without a doubt, Watson needs an ATG upgrade. 14 year Astro in a 19 year career
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50. 1941 Thornton Lee, White Sox, LHSP 22-11 2.37. Led A.L. pitchers in ERA, CG, ERA+ & WAR. Career bests in W, W-L%, ERA, IP, CG, ERA+, WAR, ShO, K, H9 & WHIP. This would be a big upgrade over Lee's other cards, and would give the Prewar White Sox a badly needed SP
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PostMon Dec 02, 2019 2:34 pm

Greetings,

Poll is open for 20.1 new card add. Stats posted below, courtesy of Andy. Players w/o a comparison to a current card are not represented in the set.

Posting to show the data from the actual Strat cards for the 20.1 Nominations. I input all stats on DiamondDope through Veterans 1975 (10,10,10,10) to give us an idea of how the card will actually perform.


STARTING PITCHERS
2009 Bronson Arroyo, CIN, Throws-R, 3R Balance, S7*
LH—2b-4.3, 3b-0.3, HR-5.2, BB-5, 250/285/448, .733 OPS
RH— 2b-5.2, 3b-0, HR-3.6, BB-6, 178/224/335, .559 OPS

1968 Bobby Bolin, SF, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S8/R4
LH—2b-0.8, 3b- 0.6, HR-1.2, BB-6, 118/167/187, .354 OPS
RH—2b-8.5, 3b-0.2, HR-1.1, BB-6, 144/192/228, .420 OPS
Current 1962 Bolin, 1.14m, SF, Throws-R, 5L Balance, R4
LH—2b-0,3b-0,HR-0,BB-18, 174/312/174, .486 OPS
RH--2b-3.3, 3b-1.2, HR-9.2, BB-1, 249/256/560, .816 OPS


1914 Ray Caldwell, NYY, Throws-R, E Balance, S8*/R5
LH—2b-1.5, 3b-0.6, HR-0.9, BB-3, 112/137/163, .300 OPS
RH— 2b-1.5, 3b-0.6, HR-0.9, BB-3, 110/134/161, .295 OPS
Current 1911 Caldwell, 3.25m, NYY, Throws-R, 4R Balance, S8*/R5
LH—2b-3.2, 3b-5.2, HR-2.8, BB-9, 245/308/468, .776 OPS
RH--2b-4, 3b-2, HR-0.6, BB-8, 152/214/250, .464 OPS


1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS, Throws-R, 3R Balance, S7*
LH—7.4 2b, 0 3b, 4.4 HR, 4 BB 205/234/402, .637 OPS
RH--0.5 2b, 0.8 3b, 2.4 HR, 6 BB 148/195/238, .434 OPS

1941 Thornton Lee, CWS, Throws-L, 2L Balance, S9*
LH—3 2b, 0.6 3b, 0.4 HR, 2 BB 125/141/175, .316 OPS
RH--3.1 2b, 0.3 3b, 2.2 HR, 6 BB 171/217/272, .489 OPS
Current 1937 Thornton Lee, 5.07m, Throws-L, E Balance, S8*
LH—2.8 2b, 0.6 3b, 2.9 HR, 4 BB 205/235/327, .562 OPS
RH--2.8 2b, 0.6 3b, 2.9 HR, 4 BB 202/232/324, .556 OPS


2018 Aaron Nola, PHI, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S6* (I THINK he gets the *)
LH—2b-0.3, 3b-0, HR-1.2, BB-9, 015/097/055, .152 OPS
RH—2b-5, 3b-0.3, HR-1, BB-2, 071/088/152, .240 OPS

2004 Brad Radke, MIN, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S7*
LH—2b-1.0, 3b-0.2, HR-3.7, BB-0 207/207/323, .531 OPS
RH—2b-4.2, 3b-0.8, HR-1.1, BB-0 262/262/345, .606 OPS

1985 Rick Reuschel, PIT, Throws-R, E Balance, S7/R3 (probably no *)
LH—4.4 2b, 0.4 3b, 0.2 HR, 3 BB 131/156/185, .340 OPS
RH--4.6 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 4 BB 123/155/167, .322 OPS
Current 1977 Rick Reuschel, 5.65m, CHC, Throws-R, 5R Balance, S6*/R3
LH—4 2b, 0.3 3b, 1 HR, 12 BB 249/333/329, .662 OPS
RH--3.4 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 137/137/168, .305 OPS


1973 Steve Rogers, MON, Throws-R, 5L Balance, S8
LH—0 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 10 BB 016/107/032, .139 OPS
RH—8 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 13 BB 138/242/222, .464 OPS
Current 1976 Steve Rogers, 5.51m, Throws-R, 3R Balance, S7*
LH--0 2b, 1.2 3b, 0.8 HR, 8 BB 237/294/284, .578 OPS
RH--3 2b, 0.6 3b, 0.8 HR, 4 BB 131/163/193, .357 OPS


2011 James Shields, TB, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S7*
LH—2b-1.2, 3b-0.0, HR-2.2, BB-5, 162/201/238, .439 OPS
RH—2b-3.1, 3b-0.3, HR-4.2, BB-7, 166/220/327, .547 OPS
Current 2008 Shields, 4.30m, TB, Throws-R, 1R Balance, S7*
LH—2b-7.9, 3b-0.8, HR-3.1, BB-2, 216/231/392, .623 OPS
RH--2b-2.9, 3b-0, HR-3.1, BB-0, 221/221 334, .555 OPS


1978 Bob Welch, LA, Throws-R, E Balance, S7/R3
LH—2b-3.2, 3b-0.8, HR-1.1, BB-2, 174/189/250, .438 OPS
RH—2b-2.7, 3b-0.0, HR-1.3, BB-6, 166/212/228, .440 OPS
Current 1990 Welch, 4.66m, OAK, Throws-R, 2R Balance, S7*
LH—2b-4, 3b-1.4, HR-2.5, BB-9, 197/264/341, .605 OPS
RH--2b-6, 3b-0, HR-3.3, BB-6, 143/191/299, .490 OPS



RELIEF PITCHERS
2012 Aroldis Chapman, CIN, Throws-L, 2L Balance, R1
LH—2b-0, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-9, 000/083/000, .083 OPS
RH—2b-0.6, 3b-0.5, HR-1.4, BB-11, 028/127/088, .214 OPS

2001 Keith Foulke, CWS, Throws-R, 2R Balance, R1
LH—2b-0.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-8, 100/166/1.07, .274 OPS
RH— 2b-0.0, 3b-0.0, HR-0.0, BB-4, 063/098/063, .161 OPS

1979 Jim Kern, TEX, Throws-R, 4R Balance, R3
LH—2b-3.3, 3b-0.0, HR-0.2, BB-14, 125/238/164, .403 OPS
RH—2b-0.0, 3b-0.0, HR-0.0, BB-11, 002/103/002, .105 OPS
Current 1977 Kern, .77m, CLE, 4R Balance, R2
LH—2b-4.3,3b-0,HR-0,BB-24, 257/422/308, .730 OPS
RH--2b-0, 3b-2.4, HR-0, BB-7, 180/233/227, .460 OPS


2014 Pat Neshek, STL, Throws-R, 2R Balance, R1
LH—4.1 2b, 0 3b, 2.2 HR, 0 BB 100/100/198, .298 OPS
RH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0.4 HR, 0 BB 066/066/077, .144 OPS

2008 Matt Thornton, CWS, Throws-L, 2L Balance, R1
LH--2b-0, 3b-0, HR-1.3, BB-10, 026/116/065, .181 OPS
RH--2b-4.9, 3b-0, HR-1.7, BB-0, 122/122/214, .336 OPS


CATCHERS
1998 Brad Ausmus, HOU, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-2)e3, Steal: *7/-(17-6), 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH—2b-0.9, 3b-0.0, HR-2, BB-9, 272/420/352, .772 OPS
RH—2b-0.0, 3b-1.8, HR-3 BB-9, 285/358/415, .773 OPS

1889 Fred Carroll, PIT, Bats-R, 1L Balance, 1b-3e28, C-4(+1)e16, LF-3(+2)e25, Steal: *4-7/10(14-11), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-8.1, 3b-4.8, HR-0.4, BB-35, 487/677/764, 1.441 OPS
RH—2b-6.3, 3b-4.8, HR-0.4, BB-35, 413/636/669, 1.305 OPS

2007 Russell Martin, LA, Bats-R, 4L Balance, C-1(-2)e1, Steal: *2-5,11,12/-(16-12), 3 Game INJ Risk, 1 INJ Rating
LH—2b-5.3, 3b-0, HR-7.8, BB-20, 43/554/768, 1.322 OPS
RH—2b-5.3, 3b-0.8, HR-2.3, BB-14, 279/392/428, .820 OPS

1977 Ted Simmons, STL, Bats-S, 1R Balance, C-3(0)e4, RF-4(+1)e16, 15 Game INJ Risk, 1 INJ Rating
LH—1.5 2b, 0 3b, 9.2 HR, 14 BB 346/437/659, 1.096 OPS
RH—6 2b, 0.3 3b, 5.9 HR, 11 BB 401/467/646, 1.113 OPS
Current 1979 Simmons, 4.59m, STL, Bats-S, 1L Balance, C-2(0)e10, 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH—2b-1.5,3b-0,HR-16.3,BB-2, 297/323/782, 1.105 OPS
RH--2b-6.6, 3b-0, HR-7.3, BB-14, 322/423/630, 1.053 OPS



FIRST BASEMEN
1983 Willie Aikens, KC, Bats-L, 8R Balance, 1b-4e18, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-5.3, 3b-0, HR-0.8, BB-6, 144/199/218, .417 OPS
RH—2b-7.7, 3b-0, HR-10.9, BB-9, 366/425/776, 1.201 OPS
Current 1980 Aikens, 1.72m, KC, Bats-L, 1b-4e18, 3 game INJ Risk
LH—2b-0.5, 3b-0, HR-4.7, BB-11, 137/249/293, .542 OPS
RH--2b-5.65, 3b-0, HR-6.1, BB-14, 363/463/626, 1.089 OPS


1974 Bill Buckner, LA, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 1b-3e29, LF-1(+2)e7, RF-3(+2)e7, Steal: *6-8/-(17-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—11.7 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 283/296/393, .690 OPS
RH-- 5.4 2b, 0.5 3b, 1 HR, 0 BB 377/389/466, .855 OPS
Current 1980 Bill Buckner, 3.37m, CHC, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 1b-2e11, LF/RF-4(+2)e7, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--9 2b, 0 3b, 0.3 HR, 0 BB 339/339/431, .770 OPS
RH--10 2b, 0.6 3b, 2.8 HR, 0 BB 389/389/569, .958 OPS


1996 Mo Vaughn, BOS, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 1b-4e17, In Game INJ Risk
LH--1.5 2b, 0.3 3b, 7.1 HR, 17 BB 373/501/644, 1.145 OPS
RH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 11.9 HR, 10 BB 378/464/804, 1.268 OPS
Current 1995 Vaughn, BOS, Bats-L, 5R Balance, 1b-4e13, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-4.3, 3b-0, HR-5, BB-5, 238/308/435, .743 OPS
RH--2b-4.7, 3b-0.6, HR-16, BB-9, 359/442/930, 1.372 OPS


1977 Bob Watson, HOU, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 1b-3e10, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—5.9 2b, 0.4 3b, 9.6 HR, 6 BB 393/444/752, 1.195 OPS
RH—9.2 2b, 1.7 3b, 5.6 HR, 9 BB 314/390/623, 1.013 OPS
Current 1978 Bob Watson, 2.12m, 1b-3e12, 2L Balance, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.1 2b, 2.2 3b, 5.5 HR, 5 BB 390/429/647, 1.076 OPS
RH--6.5 2b, 1 3b, 4.8 HR, 9 BB 308/378/542, .920 OPS



MIDDLE INFIELDERS
1973 Joe Morgan, CIN, Bats-L, 2b-1e10, Steal: *3-6/-(19-15), In Game INJ Risk Only
LH—2b-2.2, 3b-0, HR-2.3, BB-25, 268/444/377, .821 OPS
RH—2b-8.9, 3b-0.2, HR-9.4, BB-25, 380/530/838, 1.367 OPS
Current 1976 Morgan, 10.30m, CIN, Bats-L, 2b-1e16, Steal: *4-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-6.3, 3b-1.6, HR-3.15, BB-21, 284/424/502, .926 OPS
RH--2b-6.4, 3b-0.8, HR-10.8, BB-36, 467/645/1.027, 1.672 OPS


2012 Alcides Escobar, KC, Bats-R, 2R Balance, SS-1e20, Steal: *5,6/-(19-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—3.2 2b, 0 3b, 1.3 HR, 7 BB 293/358/364, .722 OPS
RH--5.3 2b, 2.8 3b, 2 HR, 0 BB 345/363/505, .868 OPS

1922 Charlie Hollocher, CHC, Bats L, E Balance, SS-2e30, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--7.3 2b, 1.2 3b, 0 HR, 10 BB 407/467/506, .973 OPS
RH--7.3 2b, 1.2 3b, 0 HR, 10 BB 407/467/506, .973 OPS

1959 Charlie Neal, LA, Bats-R, 1R Balance, 2b-1e10, SS-4e44, Steal: *3-5/-(17-12), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-11.1, 3b-1.4, HR-1.8, BB-6, 305/350/495, .846 OPS
RH--2b-3.9, 3b-3.5, HR-4.3, BB-6, 345/387/577, .964 OPS

1962 Bobby Richardson, NYY, Bats-R, 3L Balance, 2b-1e15, In Game INJ Only
LH--6.7 2b, 2.3 3b, 1.6 HR, 7 BB 423/461/581, 1.042 OPS
RH--6.8 2b, 0.2 3b, 1.8 HR, 0 BB 308/308/424, .732 OPS
CURRENT 1964 Richardson, 1.53m, NYY, Bats-R, 3R Balance, 2b-1e15, In Game INJ Risk Only
LH--3.8 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 219/219/254, .473 OPS
RH--3 2b, 1.2 3b, 2 HR, 0 BB 306/306/411, .717 OPS


1935 Billy Rogell, DET, Bats R, E Balance, SS-2e24, 3 game INJ Risk
LH--2.4 2b, 2.5 3b, 0.6 HR, 15 BB 289/394/390, .784 OPS
RH--2.4 2b, 2.6 3b, 0.6 HR, 19 BB 302/431/407, .838 OPS


THIRD BASEMEN
1912 Frank Baker, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-2e34, Steal: *3-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--8.8 2b, 5.4 3b, 2.5 HR, 8 BB 443/490/717, 1.206 OPS
RH--8.6 HR, 5.3 3b, 2.5 HR, 8 BB 447/494/717, 1.211 OPS
Current 1913 Baker, 6.87m, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-3e32, Steal: *4-6,12/- (18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--7.3 2b, 1.5 3b, 3 HR, 11 BB 428/491/628, 1.121 OPS
RH--7.3 2b, 1.5 3b, 3 HR, 11 BB 438/500/638, 1.138 OPS


1912 Larry Gardner, BOS, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-1e37, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--4.7 2b, 5 3b, 1.1 HR, 12 BB 386/460/575, 1.034 OPS
RH--4.7 2b, 5 3b, 1.1 HR, 12 BB 386/460/575, 1.034 OPS
Current 1920 Gardner, 3.94m, CLE, Bats-L, 1R Balance, 3b-1e11, BULLETPROOF
LH--5.5 2b, 0 3b, 1 HR, 6 BB 289/328/372, .700 OPS
RH--4.2 2b, 3.3 3b, 1 HR, 9 BB 307/364/446, .810 OPS


2009 Pablo Sandoval, SF, Bats-S, 3L Balance, 3b-3e15, 1b-3e21, C-4(+1)e6, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 2b-13.2, 3b-0.0, HR-5.5, BB-6, 497/534/794, 1.328 OPS
RH—2b-8.4, 3b-1.5, HR-6.6, BB-2, 361/385/661, 1.046 OPS


CENTER FIELDERS
2000 Andruw Jones, ATL, Bats-R, 2R Balance, CF-1(-3)e2, Steal: *2-4,11/-(18-12), In Game INJ Only
LH—2b-0.0, 3b-0.6, HR-2.5, BB-16, 364/476/462, .938 OPS
RH—2b-6.5,3b-1.5, HR-9.2, BB-6, 362/415/737, 1.152 OPS
Current 2005 Jones, 8.05m, Bats-R, 2R Balance, CF-1(-4)e2, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-4.3, 3b-0, HR-11, BB-11, 242/354/647, 1.001 OPS
RH--2b-1.5, 3b-0.9, HR-14.9, BB-9, 276/370/785, 1.155 OPS


1976 Garry Maddox, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, CF-1(-2)e6, Steal: *2-6/-(17-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--11.8 2b, 0.8 3b, 1.6 HR, 6 BB 388/433/568, 1.001 OPS
RH--8.8 2b, 1.5 3b, 0.8 HR, 4 BB 400/433/539, .972 OPS
Current 1979 Maddox, 3.22m, PHI, Bats-R, 3R Balance, CF/RF-1(-2)e2, Steal: *2-10,12/- (15-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-6.5, 3b-0.6, HR-3.3, BB-0, 216/231/382, .613 OPS
RH--2b-5.9, 3b-1.8, HR-2.5, BB-0, 338/350/498, .848 OPS


2018 Mike Trout, CAL, Bats-R, 2R Balance, CF-1(-2)e0, Steal: *7/-(19-12), 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH--2b-3.5, 3b-2.5, HR-5.9, BB-29, 365/559/714, 1.273 OPS
RH--2b-3.50, 3b-0.5, HR-12.5, BB-28, 427/597/980, 1.576 OPS
Current 2013 Trout, 10.51m, CAL, Bats-R, 2R Balance, CF/LF-1(+1)e2, Steal: *4-6/-(19-13), In Game INJ Risk Only
LH--2b-8.5, 3b-0, HR-4.3, BB-33, 385/590/680. 1.270 OPS
RH--2b-6.1, 3b-3.3, HR-7.1, BB-19, 433/548/826, 1.374 OPS




CORNER OUTFIELDERS
1933 Wally Berger, BSB, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(-1)e10, RF/CF-4(-1)e10, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--8.8 2b, 2 3b, 12 HR, 6 BB 374/414/856, 1.271 OPS
RH--8.5 2b, 2 3b, 11.8 HR, 8 BB 373/425/854, 1.280 OPS
Current 1931 Berger, 5.16m, BSB, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(-1)e8, CF/RF-4(-1)e8, 1b-4e14, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-8.2, 3b-1.3, HR-7, BB-9, 405/460/729, 1.189 OPS
RH-- 2b-8, 3b-1.3, HR-6.8, BB-9, 395/451/709, 1.160 OPS


1915 Ty Cobb, DET, Bats-L, E Balance, RF/LF-2(0)e17, CF-3(0)e17, Steal: *3-7/-(20-16), In Game INJ Risk Only
LH— 2b-5.6, 3b-2.5, HR-0.4, BB-26, 521/641/667, 1.307 OPS
RH—2b-5.6 3b-2.5 HR-0.4 BB-26, 521/641/667, 1.307 OPS
Current 1912 Cobb, 9.99m, DET, Bats-L, CF/RF-2(0)e12, Steal: *3-6/- (19-15), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-6.3, 3b-6.6, HR-2, BB-6, 585/612/836, 1.448 OPS
RH—2b-6.2, 3b-6.4, HR-1.8, BB-6, 574/601/814, 1.415 OPS


1905 Mike Donlin, NYG, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(-1)e19, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--6.2 2b, 3.5 3b, 2.3 HR, 10 BB 467/521/674, 1.196 OPS
RH--5.9 2b, 3.5 3b, 1.5 HR, 10 BB 449/506/629, 1.134 OPS
Current 1908 Mike Donlin, 6.38m, NYG, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF-2(-1)e3, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—5.3 2b, 3.3 3b, 1.3 HR, 0 BB 431/437/578, 1.015 OPS
RH—5.3 2b, 3.3 3b, 1.1 HR, 0 BB 424/429/565, .994 OPS


1993 Juan Gonzalez, TEX, Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF-3(0)e5, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--9.3 2b, 0 3b, 14.3 HR, 0 BB 406/433/911, 1.344 OPS
RH--6.4 2b, 0 3b, 14.8 HR, 3 BB 375/422/882, 1.303 OPS
Current 1996 Gonzalez, TEX, Bats-R, 8L Balance, RF-3(0)e3, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--11.2 2b, 0 3b, 26.3 HR, 3 BB 464/484/1.329, 1.813 OPS
RH--5.3 2b, 0.6 3b, 11.3 HR, 3 BB 320/345/707, 1.052 OPS


2004 Vladimir Guerrero, CAL, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-3(-4)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 2b-2.8, 3b-0.3, HR-15.8, BB-12, 363/452/908, 1.359 OPS
RH—2b-6.1, 3b-0.0, HR-8.4, BB-2, 408/435/712, 1.147 OPS
Current 2000 Guerrero, 9.13m, MON, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-2(-5)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-4.7, 3b-4.1, HR-15.5, BB-3, 494/522/1.076, 1.598 OPS
RH—2b-4.15, 3b-3, HR-12, BB-3, 430/462/882, 1.344 OPS


1977 George Hendrick, SD, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(-1)e8, Steal: *4,6/-(15-11), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--0.2 2b, 0 3b, 5.1 HR, 13 BB 418/494/581, 1.075 OPS
RH--5.5 2b, 0.3 3b, 8 HR, 11 BB 383/451/696, 1.148 OPS
Current 1982 Hendrick, 2.47m, STL, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-2(-3)e7, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-6.4, 3b-0.5, HR-3.6, BB-4, 346/370/521, .891 OPS
RH--2b-1.5, 3b-1.6, HR-7.8, BB-5, 284/317/555, .872 OPS


1998 Brian Jordan, STL, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF/CF-2(-1)e11, 3b-4e37, Steal:*5,6/-(17-12)
LH--14.1 2b, 3.4 3b, 5.1 HR, 5 BB 439/480/798, 1.278 OPS
RH--3.7 2b, 1.5 3b, 6.1 HR, 6 BB 352/406/605, 1.011 OPS

1979 Steve Kemp, DET, Bats-L, E Balance, LF-3(+1)e8, RF-4(+1)e8, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.2 2b, 0 3b, 6.5 HR, 12 BB 387/461/647, 1.107 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 1 3b, 8 HR, 19 BB 335/458/689, 1.147 OPS

1948 Johnny Lindell, NYY, Bats-R, 3L Balance, LF-2(+1)e2, RF-3(+1)e2, 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH--9.9 2b, 0 3b, 8.2 HR, 20 BB 466/565/859, 1.424 OPS
RH--3 2b, 1.5 3b, 6.6 HR, 2 BB 351/363/595, .958 OPS

2002 Magglio Ordonez, CWS, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-2(-1)e4,3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 2b-14.4, 3b-0.6, HR-9.8, BB-7, 309/373/768, 1.141 OPS
RH—2b-8.5, 3b-0.0, HR-8.3, BB-9, 381/450/729, 1.179 OPS
Current 2007 Ordonez, 9.62m, DET, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-3(-1)e1, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-13.1, 3b-0, HR-9.4, BB-24, 554/657/1.052, 1.709 OPS
RH--2b-11.3, 3b-0, HR-5.9, BB-12, 434/502/739, 1.241 OPS


1987 Tim Raines, MON, Bats-S, 4L Balance, LF-1(+1)e5, Steal: *2-5/-(19-14), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH-- 2b-10.3, 3b-4.0, HR-3.0, BB-8, 527/567/803, 1.369 OPS
RH—2b-5.6, 3b-1.0, HR-4.4, BB-16, 333/438/562, 1.000 OPS
Current 1986 Raines, 7.29m, Bats-S, 1R Balance, LF-1(+1)e7, Steal: *4-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-4.5, 3b-1.6, HR-2.5, BB-12, 387/461 547, 1.008 OPS
2b-7.5, 3b-3, HR-0.8, BB-15, 443/525/614, 1.139 OPS


1962 Floyd Robinson, CWS, Bats-L, 3R Balance, RF/LF-3(-1)e9, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--6.3 2b, 2.3 3b, 1.4 HR, 9 BB 265/333/417, .750 OPS
RH--10.9 2b, 2.5 3b, 1 HR, 10 BB 379/442/574, 1.016 OPS

1919 Bobby Veach, DET, Bats L, E Balance, LF-2(-3)e13, Steal: *4-6,12/- (18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--11 2b, 4.8 3b, 0.5 HR, 3 BB 438/459/651, 1.110 OPS
RH--14.5 2b, 4.8 3b, 0.5 HR, 3 BB 445/466/691, 1.157 OPS
Current 1916 Veach, 5.22m, DET, Bats-L, E Balance, LF-2(+1)e7, CF-3(+1)e7, Steal: *4-6,12/- (18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 2b-7,3 b-3.8, HR-0.6, BB-8, 374/426/539, .965 OPS
RH--2b-6.9, 3b-3.8, HR-0.5, BB-8, 368/420/529, .949 OPS


1948 Ted Williams, BOS, Bats-L, E Balance, LF-3(-2)e6, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-12.7, 3b-0, HR-7.3 BB-23, 536/639/948, 1.587 OPS
RH—2b-9.67, 3b-0, HR-9.6 BB-27, 511/638/992, 1.630 OPS
Current 1941 Williams, BOS, Bats-L, 2R Balance, RF/LF-3(-1)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-7.1, 3b-0.8, HR-2.7, BB-20 613/688/804, 1.492 OPS
RH--2b-6.9, 3b-0, HR-12.8, BB-39 562/724/1.225, 1.949 OPS
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostThu Dec 05, 2019 1:48 pm

Quoted from Riggo Drill

STEVE F wrote:
And Ty Cobbs second most famous season , in which he stole 96 bases (1915) Isn't even in the set

...and most walks/highest OBP + he doesn't get injured! If added to the set, it will be Cobb's best card and the best leadoff hitter in ATG! 8-)
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostSat Dec 07, 2019 6:05 pm

Top 26 vote-getters so far:
21 EXP
1 POST
1 PRE
3 DB

Brings up 2 points:
1--EXP cards get more votes by a large margin
2--Strat needs to expand the set to 5 eras: Deadball 1800s-1920, Pre-War 1921-1945, Post-War 1946-1966, Expansion 1967-1993, and Millenial 1994-and up.

I think it would be great to see a brand new ATG9, with a card repricing, expanding set to 5 eras, adding a few more historical teams and stadiums.
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostMon Dec 09, 2019 12:35 pm

How about some luv and a lot more votes for the newest electee to the Hall of Fame - Ted Simmons! Simba!!
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostMon Dec 09, 2019 3:25 pm

I'm consistently dumbfounded. Raines and Martin will never get used (can't hit righties very well)
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostMon Dec 09, 2019 5:47 pm

I want to give props for the Charlie Hollocher nomination-
not only is it a good obp lefty SS but also fits the pre war model --

wasn't my nomination and seems to be lagging in voting but would be great to get him in.
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostMon Dec 09, 2019 6:49 pm

Salty wrote:I want to give props for the Charlie Hollocher nomination-
not only is it a good obp lefty SS but also fits the pre war model --

wasn't my nomination and seems to be lagging in voting but would be great to get him in.

I suggested Hollocher to Eric O, as he didn't have a firm nomination this time around.
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostMon Dec 09, 2019 7:25 pm

STEVE F wrote:I'm consistently dumbfounded. Raines and Martin will never get used (can't hit righties very well)


Veach and Vaughn are not getting votes but Raines and Vlad are. Those cards won't be used. Vaughn at least would be a improvement and could be used at lower caps. Veach is a huge improvement and is getting ignored.
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostTue Dec 10, 2019 12:50 am

STEVE F wrote:
Salty wrote:I want to give props for the Charlie Hollocher nomination-
not only is it a good obp lefty SS but also fits the pre war model --

wasn't my nomination and seems to be lagging in voting but would be great to get him in.

I suggested Hollocher to Eric O, as he didn't have a firm nomination this time around.



okay I give you the credit for a great nomination
really hope he gets in

the guys that wont get used, not so much
but Hollacher YES
please nominate him again should he miss
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Re: 20.1 Voting now Open!

PostTue Dec 10, 2019 12:54 am

I plan to keep pushing the 1915 Cobb. I think if the majority realize that it would become the best lead off card in the entire set, It'll get in.
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