Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostTue Aug 21, 2018 2:34 pm

The 1993 Galarraga should be included. This is a great opportunity to get him a Colorado card. Growing up he was Rockies baseball to me. Definitely needs one.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostWed Aug 22, 2018 4:43 pm

I would much prefer 1993 Galarraga (370/403/602) than Girardi 1993. Girardi played 83 games with a 743 ops. It’s a sentimental add, but would he be played? If you want to add someone with no cards, Charlie Blackmon 2017 (331 (led league) 399 601)
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 24, 2018 10:40 am

ratioman2 wrote:I would much prefer 1993 Galarraga (370/403/602) than Girardi 1993. Girardi played 83 games with a 743 ops. It’s a sentimental add, but would he be played? If you want to add someone with no cards, Charlie Blackmon 2017 (331 (led league) 399 601)


Girardi (15 yrs) has no card in ATG. I'd far prefer Girardi, but there is no reason we can't have both.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 31, 2018 5:00 pm

C- Yorvit Torrealba 2007 / no card / 443 PA / 323 obp / 699 ops / 2+0e1 / E
1B - Todd Helton* 2007 / 1 card (MBC) / 682 PA / 928 ops / 2e2 / 3R
2B - Kaz Matsui** 2007 / no card / 453 PA / 342 obp / 746 ops / 2e6 / 1R
3B - Garrett Atkins 2007 / no card / 684 PA / 853 ops / 4e15, 1b-4e30 / 3R
SS - Troy Tulowitzki 2007 / 1 card (MBC) / 682 PA / 838 ops / 2e12 / 2L
CF - Willy Taveras 2007 / no card / 408 PA / 367 obp / 748 ops / 2-3e8 / 1L
RF - Brad Hawpe* 2007 / no card / 606 PA / 387 obp / 926 ops / 4-3e7 / 5R
OF - Ryan Spilborghs 2007 /no card / 300 PA / 363 obp / 848 / RF/LF-3+0e3, CF 4 / 3L /good ying to Hawpe's yang
OF - Carlos Gonzalez* 2010 / no card
UT-2B,3B,SS,RF - Jamey Carroll 2007 / no card / 268 PA / 3167 obp / 616 ops / 2b-2e6,3b-3e47,SS-4e12,RF-4+2e16 / 2L
UT-1B,3B,RF,LF - Jeff Baker 2007 / no card / 159 PA / 296 obp / 643 ops / 1b-4e30,3b-4e18,RF/LF-4-1e4 / 3L
CF - Cory Sullivan* 2007 / no card / 153 PA / 336 obp / 721 ops / 2-1e1 / 2R
C - Joe Girardi 1993 / no card / 350 PA / 743 ops / 1L
UT - Jonathan Herrera 2011 / no card / 320 PA / 612 ops / 2b-2e6, 3b-3e19, SS-3e18 / E

SP - Jeff Francis 2006
SP - Aaron Cook 2008
SP - Marvin Freeman 1994
SP - Jhoulys Chacin 2010
RP - Manny Corpas 2007
RP - Matt Herges 2007
RP - Jeremy* Affeldt 2007
RP - Brian* Fuentes 2007
RP - LaTroy Hawkins 2007
RP - Steve Reed 1995
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One last spot. I'm all for adding Galarraga so he finally has a COL card, but 93 or 96? 96 gives us his career highs in HR (47) and RBI (150), 974 ops, more pure HR and is not injury prone. 93 we get a better OBP card and slightly higher OPS 1005 but 506 PA.

Of note we are also forgoing Fogg's .50 SP card.

I've lagged enough on this submission so please chime in on Andres here soon so I can submit.

tks!
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 31, 2018 6:39 pm

I vote 1993
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 31, 2018 7:45 pm

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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 31, 2018 8:27 pm

ratioman2 wrote:I vote 1993

93 would probably be priced better and get used more
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSat Sep 01, 2018 3:58 am

I've been away for the past few weeks, so haven't been able to follow this as closely as I would have liked to. Put me down as disappointed in the way that this is playing out. The idea I had always thought was to put in the team from whatever year was determined, not some kind of Chinese menu approach (one from column 2007, one from some all-time Rockies player list). Put in the 25 players from 2007 (I know that there are 33 players possible) -- 15 hitters, 10 pitchers. Holliday is already in, so replace him (Gonzalez?). After that, the Rockies fans can try to nominate the players they want the way the rest of us do -- through the various processes that Rosie has put into place.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSat Sep 01, 2018 8:44 am

george barnard wrote:I've been away for the past few weeks, so haven't been able to follow this as closely as I would have liked to. Put me down as disappointed in the way that this is playing out. The idea I had always thought was to put in the team from whatever year was determined, not some kind of Chinese menu approach (one from column 2007, one from some all-time Rockies player list). Put in the 25 players from 2007 (I know that there are 33 players possible) -- 15 hitters, 10 pitchers. Holliday is already in, so replace him (Gonzalez?). After that, the Rockies fans can try to nominate the players they want the way the rest of us do -- through the various processes that Rosie has put into place.

I get your perspective. The only observation of 'justification' I can offer is that the Rockies as a franchise in SOM are not represented well at all, yes I'm playing master of the obvious for a moment. So this team add has created another valid (in my mind) priority in making the franchise viable as a stand alone club. I think the community has done a decent job of straddling both goals.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSun Sep 02, 2018 1:19 am

I vote 1993 also
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