2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

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BruceF

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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostTue Dec 22, 2020 9:47 am

What happened to the vote?
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostTue Dec 22, 2020 5:23 pm

I am ready, just waiting my turn.

I hope everyone has a Happy and Safe Holiday.

BK
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mighty moose

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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostWed Dec 23, 2020 12:55 am

GaryClausen has been unreachable so far. Ignored all emails for nearly two weeks. If he doesn't respond for confirmation that he is both playing in the finals and will come in and make his vote, he will be removed from the finals. Everyone will move up one and another participant will come from the semi-finals. Not sure why he is suddenly so hard to reach.
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostFri Dec 25, 2020 2:07 pm

It is unusual, but not unprecedented, that a manager would survive the gauntlet of 6 leagues, make it to the Finals as the 4th seed, and then walk away without a peep. But we are in the age of Covid, so old norms often no longer apply.

Although I'm not alone in my belief that there is no urgency to vote on the Finals' format, apparently the beliefs of the finalists matter little.

My suggestion regarding the disappearance of GaryClausen is that if it is imperative that a vote be taken now on the Finals' format, that we skip his vote, but don't yet boot him from the Finals. Perhaps he will reappear with an explanation. In the meantime, the vote and the Semis can proceed. If GaryClausen fails to appear by the time the Semis winners are known, I suggest that he be replaced at that time, and that the next highest point qualifier who didn't win the Semis be added to replace him.

If the BSers board wishes to add further competition and intrigue to the battle to be a potential replacement should GaryClausen not timely appear, perhaps it should consider 10th place finisher Dougess' suggestion made in another thread to a "continuation of the Barnstormers point system with the semifinal managers’ points being reset to 1/5 of their accumulated points. The Barnstormers points earned in the semifinal round would be added to the reset level to determine who advances to the final league. For this year there is a 69 point differential between 10th and 81st which would result in an approximate 14 point lead for manager #10 over #81 to start the semifinal."

Again, while I understand that it's important to some to strictly adhere to the tourney timetable, it is virtually unfathomable that someone would qualify for the Finals and would simply disappear without further contact. The proposal above gives GaryClausen the benefit of the doubt, while at the same time causing no significant delay in completion of the tournament.
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostFri Dec 25, 2020 6:06 pm

I like this idea.
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostFri Dec 25, 2020 11:13 pm

First and foremost, I hope GaryClausen is OK.

I would not be bothered if we skipped over his cap vote. He can vote later without affecting the timing of the final league.

I agree that he should keep his slot in the finals if he checks in while the semifinal leagues are still in progress.
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostSat Dec 26, 2020 11:56 am

labratory wrote:First and foremost, I hope GaryClausen is OK.

I would not be bothered if we skipped over his cap vote. He can vote later without affecting the timing of the final league.

I agree that he should keep his slot in the finals if he checks in while the semifinal leagues are still in progress.


Agree with all of this, especially hoping GaryClausen is OK.
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostTue Dec 29, 2020 3:36 pm

It's funny, I rarely get phone numbers when a player signs up but oddly enough, I did have one listed in my database for GaryClausen. I called, it went to voicemail without identifying who I had called so I left a message. Then I did a text to the same number and got back a reply saying sorry - no "GaryClausen" at this number. So - I went back into the signup email where I got that and I did record it correctly.

It's not uncommon for a signup to not give a lot of information and some will go so far as to cover up who referred them. Of course we know players who are using "new" identities to cover up something or other. Take the Top 10 for example. grazoonite is not a new player (if you happened to be sitting under a mushroom for a year) and not much information is known about GaryClausen either. He's using rocketmail which is another one of those throwaway email addresses. Might have been created just for Barnstormers and seldom checked. I will have SOM also try to run a database check and see if they have a different email address or any other player using his address. Any way possible to contact him other than what I have.

I agree with the statements to skip his vote but keep him active and I would like to reserve the #3 draft pick for him as that would be his most likely pick. If he does show up and prefers #11 - that can easily be accommodated.

If we get all the way to the end and he is still a no show, I will engage the board to get ideas on how to fill the vacancy including the ideas posted here.
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostTue Dec 29, 2020 4:06 pm

SOM confirmed that the email address I have for GaryClausen is the same one they have and he has been playing "365 for years".

No help there other than an MIA player. If any of you have him in an ACTIVE league - can you league mail him ?
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Re: 2020 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostWed Dec 30, 2020 10:12 pm

My vote/ choice-

$100m

If $100m DH
If $80m DH

4th pick-

Brian
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