2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

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RiggoDrill

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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostSun Nov 24, 2019 6:11 pm

RiggoDrill will take second pick in the draft

For salary cap, $100 million
If $80 million, DH
If $100 million, DH
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostSun Nov 24, 2019 7:18 pm

1. labratory 551 labratory - 80 Mil (80-NO DH 100-NO DH) 1st Pick
2. RiggoDrill 534 RiggoDrill - 100 Mil (100-DH 80-DH) 2nd Pick
3. BDWard 529 BDWard - 100 Mil (100-NO DH 80-NO DH) 3rd Pick
4. Goreds54 527
5. The Last Druid 512
6. tmfw30 511
7. Hola 502
8. Hittmens 501
9. mburatti76 493
10. Semi-finals winner with most Wins in their Semi-Final League*
11. Semi-finals winner with the next most Wins in their Semi-Final League*
12. Semi-finals winner with the fewest Wins in their Semi-Final League*

(* Run differential if there is a tie for most/fewest wins)







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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostSun Nov 24, 2019 7:40 pm

I've never voiced this thought but I do believe that the voting process for cap and dh is premature. As it turns out, there is rarely, if ever a consensus among the nine finalists, such that the cap ends up being determined by the the delayed votes of the three semifinalist winners. This seems to me to give them disproportionate influence that they have not earned by their performance over the six events that constitute the "regular season" tour.

Not looking to change this format this season. Just want to put it out there for consideration regarding future tours.

Also don't expect much trash talking from me before the finals actually start. I like and respect Bernie, Goreds, Riggo Drill and Matt and don't really know the guys who finished 7-9 in the standings. Should be an interesting finals. I am expecting Cristano to join us but he has to get past outtaleftfield and a few others first. Sure hope I get in Lab's division again though, it was great fun keeping him out of the playoffs last year. :lol:
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 1:34 am

[quote="The Last Druid"]
Not looking to change this format this season. Just want to put it out there for consideration regarding future tours.
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When the board gets together to discuss next seasons tour in the winter offseason and what we might consider changing, your comments will be considered. But instead of just suggesting "change this format", what solution is YOUR recommendation ? Extreme caps for the finals are OFF the table and obviously we still want to Live Draft. 80 Mil is still considered by SOM to be the default cap but 100 Mil is played more often. What other options are there to get the totals polled ? Have the votes sent to me privately and then I can reveal once all the votes are in ? Have SOM arrange a private mailbox and have them maintain the vote ? Again, what change do you suggest ?
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 8:28 am

My recommendation is that a secret ballot be held once the finalists are determined. We simply email our preferences to the Commissioner, who tabulates them and announces the results. Not looking to change the finals caps, 80M or 100m suit me fine.

I would also recommend a 120M option if the "choose a cap season" feature continues and consider either ending the 200M event or making it strictly a live draft.
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 9:49 am

My pick is for 100 million
If 100 million with DH
If 80 million with DH
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 9:52 am

And I will take the 4th pick.
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 12:04 pm

1. labratory 551 labratory - 80 Mil (80-NO DH 100-NO DH) 1st Pick
2. RiggoDrill 534 RiggoDrill - 100 Mil (100-DH 80-DH) 2nd Pick
3. BDWard 529 BDWard - 100 Mil (100-NO DH 80-NO DH) 3rd Pick
4. Goreds54 527 - 100 Mil (100-DH 80-DH) 4th Pick
5. The Last Druid 512
6. tmfw30 511
7. Hola 502
8. Hittmens 501
9. mburatti76 493
10. Semi-finals winner with most Wins in their Semi-Final League*
11. Semi-finals winner with the next most Wins in their Semi-Final League*
12. Semi-finals winner with the fewest Wins in their Semi-Final League*

(* Run differential if there is a tie for most/fewest wins)
Running totals.










CAP DH NO DH
100 Mil 3 2 2
80 Mil 1 2 2





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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 12:18 pm

[quote="The Last Druid"]I've never voiced this thought but I do believe that the voting process for cap and dh is premature. As it turns out, there is rarely, if ever a consensus among the nine finalists, such that the cap ends up being determined by the the delayed votes of the three semifinalist winners. This seems to me to give them disproportionate influence that they have not earned by their performance over the six events that constitute the "regular season" tour.


The other way to do it is to wait for the final three and then go reverse order giving the 1st place final say and if there is a tie he could even have the ability to break the tie
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Re: 2019 Finals Vote for CAP/DH/Draft Order

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 12:31 pm

The Last Druid wrote:I would also recommend a 120M option if the "choose a cap season" feature continues and consider either ending the 200M event or making it strictly a live draft.


120M is an interesting idea but the problem with that is it isn't a standard cap. Barnstormers attracts it's share of green newbies and they often need to be hand held. You list a cap that they have to go out of their way to get to and it's confusing. This is what they see.

"Check out what kinds of leagues are forming now!
$60,000,000
$80,000,000 (standard) (Stick to this if you wish to join an Auto League)
$100,000,000
$140,000,000
$200,000,000
$999,000,000 (i.e. unlimited)"
other * ...

I've never liked the 200 Mil Event and wanted to remove it long ago, but I recall a handful of elite players had strong requests to keep it in. And again with the newbies, I don't think a 100% live draft could ever work. A large majority of "average" players jump in an auto league - set their lineups and never look in on their team again. I would expect that a lot of people would skip a 100% live draft requirement due to it's complexity.

It might be EASIER to get SOM to put the 120 Mil Cap in the list than to try to explain to a newbie how to use the other * … - I will pursue that option. Then the board can consider dropping 200 for the 120. It will still take a majority vote.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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