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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:53 pm
by Hack Wilson
There are so many, where to begin ...

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:44 pm
by Whoopycat
I'll vote for '75 Joe Morgan. He was nice in ATG1 but his price keeps going up and you can get similar performance from another Morgan card for a lot less with his '74 card.

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:16 pm
by DonSutton
Whoopycat wrote:I'll vote for '75 Joe Morgan. He was nice in ATG1 but his price keeps going up and you can get similar performance from another Morgan card for a lot less with his '74 card.

Certainly seems overpriced to me, although I've never used it. I'd love to see the 1972 (high ob but a 2, so he'd be a lot cheaper but still good lead off hitter) or 1973 (a 1 with high OB but lower BA and power) instead

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:37 am
by Eddie E
How about ANY high priced pitcher when all it takes is a bloop and a bomb which happens quite a bit in ATG

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:10 pm
by mykeedee
I would say nearly every great reliever is totally over priced! Does that make them bad cards, for the money, yes they are!!! Almost unusable at caps below 100M. :evil:

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:15 pm
by MtheB
Its all how you and when you use that Bob Gibson card.
I got 30 wins from his 69 CARD (he went 30-10)
After taking an average for the ballparks and hitters in the league, it made sense
to go with a RH weighted starter.

it was a non-DH league and my pitchers hit 9 HRs and knocked in 42 runs and stole 5 bases.
Gibson had 2 HRs, 11 RBIs and 2 SBs.

My bullpen had 49 saves.

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:24 pm
by Outta Leftfield
One thing that annoys me are the injury ratings for Mike Trout. He has four cards, and his two best offensive cards-- 2018 (10.12M) and 2019 (8.9M)-- have a 2 injury rating. This makes them hard to use.
And Trout had plenty of plate appearances in both seasons. In 2018 he had 471 AB + 122 walks. That's 593 PA, which is very close to the 600 PA 3 injury trigger. In 2019 it was 470 AB + 110 BB = 580 PA. A lot of regulars with much lower PA have 1 injury ratings. I'm not sure why ATG is picking on Trout.
For example, George Brett, in 1980, his big .390 BA season, had 449 AB + 58 BB = 507 PA. Yet he has a 1 inj. Brett was injured a lot in that season and missed 45 games. So why is it that in two of Trout's seasons when he had a lot more PA, Trout is a 2 injury?

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:48 pm
by Hack Wilson
Agreed. It's arbitrary by SOM, these injury ratings under 600 plate appearances. Why would Trout be different than the Brett season you cite? And like I've said before, SOM and real baseball don't equate in plate appearances -- MLB counts HBPs, sacrifices, etc. SOM only counts at bats and walks in card formulation.

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:13 am
by Whoopycat
I think it is because Brett had hemorrhoids and Trout's injuries were of a more serious nature.

Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:27 am
by Crabby Appleton
Whoopycat wrote:I think it is because Brett had hemorrhoids and Trout's injuries were of a more serious nature.


How embarrassing. Even 40+ years later fans still recall he had hemorrhoids. That is the first thing I think of when I hear his name. And I still do not understand how that made him miss games.