Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

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Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostTue Nov 05, 2019 2:36 am

Thurman Munson
Dwight Evans
Don Mattingly
Tommy John
Steve Garvey
Lou Whitaker
Dave Parker
Dale Murphy
Ted Simmons
plus: Marvin Miller

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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostTue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

George Steinbrenner would probably fire the guy who made up this list.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostTue Nov 05, 2019 3:46 pm

Also Bob Grich needs to be on there.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostTue Nov 05, 2019 4:54 pm

I'd vote for one of them. Whitaker. Maybe Munson, hard to tell what he would have done had he lived, but I'm ok with giving him a pass for that reason. The rest are all in the "Hall of very good", but not HOF. Evans and D Murphy have the numbers, until you start looking at the ballpark effects.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostTue Nov 05, 2019 10:36 pm

labratory wrote:Also Bob Grich needs to be on there.

One of the most underrated players in baseball history. A criminal oversight that he's not in the HOF.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostWed Nov 06, 2019 12:39 am

With Baines getting in last year, all these guys have a shot...

I'd vote for:
Ted Simmons
Lou Whitaker
Thurman Munson
& Marvin Miller
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostThu Nov 07, 2019 2:02 am

From a historical perspective, the one man who had the most lasting impact upon the modern game is by far Marvin Miller. I personally feel the changes he fought for as head of the players union has not made major league baseball better for the fans, namely several player strikes, but it certainly has for the players, and for that he should be enshrined in the hall. It's a joke and an embarrassment to the game that commissioners Bowie Kuhn and Bud Selig are in, but Marvin Miller is not.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostThu Nov 07, 2019 11:30 am

Agree with supertyphoon.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostThu Nov 07, 2019 3:31 pm

Have to go with Tommy John.
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Re: Modern Baseball Era HOF ballot (1970-1987)

PostThu Nov 07, 2019 3:42 pm

Mumford wrote:Have to go with Tommy John.

Big Dodger fan here. I watched TJ a lot. I loved TJ. But at no point while watching him play did I ever think "this is a hall of fame pitcher". Let's compare that to Don Sutton, who many people have called "a good pitcher who did it on longevity". I saw Sutton as a HOF pitcher on a daily basis by 1971-72. In other words, watching both pitchers extensively at the same time period, it was clear to me that Sutton was a hall of famer, and TJ was a very good pitcher, but not a hall of famer.
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