quick question on base stealing settings

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Re: quick question on base stealing settings

PostMon May 16, 2022 1:06 pm

Outta Leftfield wrote:So, evgerich and Frankie, would I be well advised, do you think, to set such a team on Very Aggressive baserunning, or just leave the setting as Aggressive? It seems like a close call to me.
Thanks for your thoughts.


On bomber teams, I always set my team to extra conservative baserunning, as I don't want a guy getting caught trying to stretch something and end an inning with Barry Bonds coming up next. Nor do I want him to get caught trying to stretch something and turn a 2 run homer into a solo homer.

And if you have slow guys mixed in the lineup that makes it all the more likely that you don't want them making outs on the bases.
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Re: quick question on base stealing settings

PostMon May 16, 2022 1:52 pm

Stealing: Note that while the letter rating is a convenient shorthand, it is not used with the super advanced rules (the letter ratings are from the basic/advanced game).

I don't check anyone to steal more if they have a chance of an automatic out/pickoff (which is the number after the slash, if present). The best gauge is to watch the data and tweak it depending on opponent.

I agree with all that rich said on this, including the bomber team running advice. Not that I matter--I just mean that what he said agrees with my real world data and experiences. Obviously it seems to agree with his too or he wouldn't do it--I prefer data-driven decisions, not theoretical hunches.

Running: If you have no slugs (maybe a 13-15 catcher...but see Lab's example earlier) and clearly a superior running team of 15s to 17s, I always set to very aggressive, unless a team has an OF of all -3 to -5 arms. Which is rare. Other than that, it depends. If I am in a high singles park, I may be more aggressive no matter what the OF arms are.

The other second order effect of the high OBA/high speed teams is they frequently have guys who are being held on. Translation: all those gbx outs may be singles through the side with the held runner.
So it shouldn't come up, but this is why it is important to have *rated stealers who get leads and will get held--because it creates a few more opportunities for hits and less double plays from guys with gbA+ if the infield is in etc.
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Re: quick question on base stealing settings

PostMon May 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Case in point.
Here is a team that is very successful using most of my typical buildout.
But look at what you lose with Ordonez and Yost (and delahanty and O'Rourke/Travis) on baserunning. For me, this is the absolute limit on slowness for smallball (but there were league reasons for this construction).
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/misc/1678184

It is a tradeoff--in this case so I could afford speaker and cobb.

I love cobb as a run producer unless it is the 11.02 card.
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