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Players that were "cheated" on their 2021 ratings

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:09 pm
by unctarheel
I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's opinion as to which players received the most unfavorable ratings in the 2021 card set. I'll start things off by griping about Xavier Bogaerts being downgraded to a 4 shortstop. I know that range were never his strongest suit, but he's too young to be put in the "wheelchair" division. Guess I should be happy they didn't make him a 5 :)

Re: Who got robbed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:21 pm
by freeman
Devers and Bogarts on the left side of the infield: yikes!

Re: Who got robbed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:20 pm
by unctarheel
Unfortunately MLB rules do not allow a team two DHs per game, lol.

Re: Players that were "cheated" on their 2021 ratings

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:47 pm
by Palmtana
Cy Young winner Robbie Ray won't be winning any of those in Strat. OB is fine but those BPHR's!

Re: Players that were "cheated" on their 2021 ratings

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:46 am
by chasenally
Palmtana wrote:Cy Young winner Robbie Ray won't be winning any of those in Strat. OB is fine but those BPHR's!


I was looking him over for a Supp pick. The numbers were very good except for the Homeruns he gave up. Most of them in Buffalo. It was Buffalo that was their home park wasn't it?

Re: Players that were "cheated" on their 2021 ratings

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:55 am
by Palmtana
You have your choice of 3 parks for the Blue Jays in 2021. See way below.



2021 Parks

BALLPARK SINGLES BALLPARK HOMERUN
Arizona L Single* 1-18 Lineout(2b) 19-20 L Homerun 1-9 Flyball(rf) B 10-20
R Single* 1-12 Lineout(ss) 13-20 R Homerun 1-3 Flyball(lf) B 4-20

Atlanta L Single* 1-10 Lineout(2b) 11-20 L Homerun 1-11 Flyball(rf) B 12-20
R Single* 1-10 Lineout(ss) 11-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

Baltimore L Single* 1-9 Lineout(2b) 10-20 L Homerun 1-18 Flyball(rf) B 19-20
R Single* 1-6 Lineout(ss) 7-20 R Homerun 1-18 Flyball(lf) B 19-20

Boston L Single* 1-17 Lineout(2b) 18-20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-17 Lineout(ss) 18-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

Chicago (AL) L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-19 Flyball(rf) B 20
R Single* 1-1 Lineout(ss) 2-20 R Homerun 1-16 Flyball(lf) B 17-20

Chicago (NL) L Single* 1-7 Lineout(2b) 8-20 L Homerun 1-8 Flyball(rf) B 9-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

Cincinnati L Single* 1-10 Lineout(2b) 11-20 L Homerun 1-18 Flyball(rf) B 19-20
R Single* 1-10 Lineout(ss) 11-20 R Homerun 1-18 Flyball(lf) B 19-20

Cleveland L Single* 1-8 Lineout(2b) 9-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-8 Lineout(ss) 9-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Colorado L Single* 1-19 Lineout(2b) 20 L Homerun 1-12 Flyball(rf) B 13-20
R Single* 1-19 Lineout(ss) 20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Detroit L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-1 Flyball(rf) B 2-20
R Single* 1-15 Lineout(ss) 16-20 R Homerun 1-7 Flyball(lf) B 8-20

Houston L Single* 1-5 Lineout(2b) 6-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-5 Lineout(ss) 6-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Kansas City L Single* 1-19 Lineout(2b) 20 L Homerun 1-3 Flyball(rf) B 4-20
R Single* 1-19 Lineout(ss) 20 R Homerun 1-3 Flyball(lf) B 4-20

Los Angeles(AL) L Single* 1-6 Lineout(2b) 7-20 L Homerun 1-16 Flyball(rf) B 17-20
R Single* 1-9 Lineout(ss) 10-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Los Angeles(NL) L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-6 Lineout(ss) 7-20 R Homerun 1-19 Flyball(lf) B 20

Miami L Single* 1-2 Lineout(2b) 3-20 L Homerun 1-4 Flyball(rf) B 5-20
R Single* 1-11 Lineout(ss) 12-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

Milwaukee L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-9 Flyball(rf) B 10-20
R Single* 1-3 Lineout(ss) 4-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Minnesota L Single* 1-13 Lineout(2b) 14-20 L Homerun 1-6 Flyball(rf) B 7-20
R Single* 1-4 Lineout(ss) 5-20 R Homerun 1-6 Flyball(lf) B 7-20

New York (AL) L Single* 1-2 Lineout(2b) 3-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-2 Lineout(ss) 3-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

New York (NL) L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-1 Lineout(ss) 2-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Oakland L Single* 1-6 Lineout(2b) 7-20 L Homerun 1-4 Flyball(rf) B 5-20
R Single* 1-6 Lineout(ss) 7-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

Philadelphia L Single* 1-7 Lineout(2b) 8-20 L Homerun 1-12 Flyball(rf) B 13-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Pittsburgh L Single* 1-10 Lineout(2b) 11-20 L Homerun 1-4 Flyball(rf) B 5-20
R Single* 1-10 Lineout(ss) 11-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

San Diego L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-1 Lineout(ss) 2-20 R Homerun 1-7 Flyball(lf) B 8-20

San Francisco L Single* 1-12 Lineout(2b) 13-20 L Homerun 1-3 Flyball(rf) B 4-20
R Single* 1-12 Lineout(ss) 13-20 R Homerun 1-3 Flyball(lf) B 4-20

Seattle L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-8 Flyball(rf) B 9-20
R Single* 1-1 Lineout(ss) 2-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

St. Louis L Single* 1-10 Lineout(2b) 11-20 L Homerun 1-4 Flyball(rf) B 5-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

Tampa Bay L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-4 Flyball(rf) B 5-20
R Single* 1-3 Lineout(ss) 4-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

Texas L Single* 1-13 Lineout(2b) 14-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-7 Flyball(lf) B 8-20

Toronto L Single* 1-5 Lineout(2b) 6-20 L Homerun 1-9 Flyball(rf) B 10-20
R Single* 1-11 Lineout(ss) 12-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Washington L Single* 1-13 Lineout(2b) 14-20 L Homerun 1-11 Flyball(rf) B 12-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-11 Flyball(lf) B 12-20



TORONTO PARKS BALLPARK SINGLES BALLPARK HOMERUN
Buffalo L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-13 Lineout(ss) 14-20 R Homerun 1-16 Flyball(lf) B 17-20

Dunedin L Single* 1-9 Lineout(2b) 10-20 L Homerun 1-12 Flyball(rf) B 13-20
R Single* 1-15 Lineout(ss) 16-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Toronto L Single* 1-6 Lineout(2b) 7-20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-6 Lineout(ss) 7-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

Re: Players that were "cheated" on their 2021 ratings

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:09 pm
by lakeviewdave
How does Blake Treinen have 5.0 HR and 4 BPHR vs rightness and 0 vs lefties? He gave up 3 HR vs righties and 2 vs lefties this past year. Replay of season in LA with 1-19 BPHR to rightness will not be friendly to him.

Same goes for Josh VanMeter, OPS vs lefties was .870 but his ratings vs lefties are 13/23/24 (H/OB/TB) with 1 BPHR, not going to equate to .870 OPS.

If an error, will SOM put out an update and tell us what changed?

Re: Players that were "cheated" on their 2021 ratings

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:39 pm
by Rant
Not what you're asking, but Chris Sale seems to have come out a bit ahead.

Sale's slash line vs. RHP: .291 / .363 / .461
Sale's raw stats vs RHP: HITS 18.9 / OB 24.9 / TB 27.9 / 3 BPHR