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1. 2001 Todd Helton COL 1b 1e2 6R in-game inj only. AS MVP-9 GG SS. Career high in HRs with 49. Newly elected Hall of Famer. This card should get a lot of use. Check it out in the new 2001 set. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/501/2001/4/2001
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2. 1982 Dusty Baker LAN LF. 1e7 -1 in LF. .300 .363.458 2L, but good OBP both ways. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30416/1982/2/1982
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3. 1966 Roberto Clemente. His only MVP season hasn’t been carded. .317/.360/.536 slash. Tied for second best WAR of his career 8.2. Gold Glove. All star. Career high 29 home runs, 105 runs and 119 RBIs 680 PA should be bulletproof. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/32151/1660/1/60
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4. 1958 Harry Anderson LF/1b 301 23 95 136 OPS- 18th in NL MVP voting. Best year.
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5. 1971 Lee May CIN, RHB, 1b 3e9 .278 39 98 .332 .532 .864 Career highs in HR, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in R, TB, RBI. Great power. Hit 354 career HRs & has just 1 platoon card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37684/1971/4/1971
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6. 1908 Charlie Chech CLE RHP, SP/RP? 11-7, 1.74 ERA, 136 ERA+, 1.026 WHIP, 7.4 H/9 The man traded for Cy Young.
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7. 1982 Dwayne Murphy. CF, OAK. Walks, power and gold glove D in Cf. This card is actually usable versus lefties. Current card is a 3.5 mil platooner with worse numbers. Murph also swiped 26 bases this season. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/838662/1680/1/80
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8. 2012 Prince Fielder DET 1B - career high avg and obp. 30HR, 2R split. Would give the Tigers a better power 1B option from the left side and would add a nice compliment to the 9L Cecil Fielder card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/360/2012/1/2012
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9. 1925 George Harper Phillies .349 /.391/.558/.949 with 35 doubles 7 triples 18 homers. Also a solid defensive outfielder.
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10. 1930 Chick Hafey LF 2(-3)e6 1L ST. LOUIS .336/.407/.652 Highest Career OPS 1.059, 39 doubles, 12 triples, 26 HR 107 RBI's, still a 15 game injury risk, but an excellent 2nd card.
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11. 1968 Ken Harrelson, Red Sox, RHB, RF 4(-1)e0, 1b 4e25 2R .275 35 109 .356 .874 Career highs in BA, H, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, OBP, SLG, TB, OPS, OPS+. Led the league in RBI, and was in the AL top 10 in about a dozen offensive categories. Easily Harrelson's best season, in the year of the pitcher. MLB lowered the mound from 15 inches to 10 inches after the season. Has just one lousy card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34987/1660/1/60
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12. 1939 Bucky Walters SP 27-11, 2.29 ERA, 1.125 WHIP, 31 complete games. Won MVP as pitcher, leading MLB in wins, innings pitched, and CG. A better ERA than the two cards we have for him, plus he's an S9*.
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13. 1972 Denny Riddleberger CLE LHRP 9L Need more low cost LOOGYs.
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14. 1937 Lou Gehrig NYY 1B .351/.473/.643 37hr 127rbi. Gehrig had a higher avg and slug vs LHP this year so this card should be a little different than the ones we currently have.
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15. 2010 Alexei Ramirez White Sox, RHB, SS 1e21 .282 18 70 .313 .431 .744. Career high in RUNS. Near career highs in HITS, BA, HR, SLG, OPS & OPS+. Silver Slugger. Gives the expansion White Sox an option for better D and more power at SS. No ATG card. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1394/2010/1/20714
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16. 1996 Ivan Rodriguez Texas, Catcher with 685 PA (minimal or no injury risk), All-star, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, 10th in MVP voting. .300 average .814 OPS...and In Game Only or NO injury https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3291/1690/1/90
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17. 1998 Jeff Reed, COL LH C 4(0)e10 T-6(pb-0), 4R, .290/.377/.467, 303 PA, 15 DO, 9 HR, 1.4 WAR - No card, set needs more low-$$, non-reverse, strong-side platoon catchers w/XBH power.
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18. 2003 Jamie Moyer, Mariners, LHSP, 21-7 3.27 All-Star, 5th in Cy Young voting. Seattle could use the pitching! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/2713/1700/1/120
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19. 2012 Darwin Barney, Cubs, RHB, 2b 1e2 .254 Ave .299 OBP .357 SLG low $ / great Def - GG / 1270.1 inn / 731 chances / 2 Errors https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91201/2012/1/2012
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20. 1935 Bill C. Lee, Cubs RHSP BAL-E, END-S7*/R5, 20-6, 2.96 ERA, 1.29 WHIP. We need more SPs form the Pre-War Era, this would be his best-performing card.
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21. 1938 Ival Goodman, Reds, L, RF-2(-2)e4, 30 HR, .292/.368/.533 Slash Line, Good Power, Much better than his current card.
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22. 2002 Alfonso Soriano NYY Bats-R BAL-1L 2b-3e24 INJ Risk-In Game Nice offensive option at 2b- should get a bunch of use, despite the defense.
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23. 1997 Shawon Dunston, Cubs and a brief cup of coffee with the Pirates, 511 PA, .300 BA, .312 OBP, 14 HR, 57 RBI - a lot more pop than his current card and the existing Cub EXP shortstops
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24. 2018 Jose Ramirez Cleveland Switch hitting 1E13 3B (also 2 at 2b) 939 OPS and 8 BPHR vs Rhp. AA steal, 17 speed. Current card is a 2 rating. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91989/2018/1/2018
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25. 1958 Bob Cerv Helps Athletics-POST LF-4e6 (-1) .305/.371/.592
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26. 2022 Paul Goldschmidt. NL MVP. Great defense with 1e1. 317/404/578 slash line. 7L...card should play like a poor man's Jeff Bagwell. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91402/2022/1/2022
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27. 1968 Carl Yastrzemski, Red Sox, Balance-2R, LF-1(-3)e3, CF-3(-3)e3, 1b-4e15. Won the Batting Title in the Year of the Pitcher, Led League in Batting, OBP, Walks, OPS. 301/426/495 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/43263/1660/1/60
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28. 1984 Chili Davis, Giants, bats both, 5R, CF, RF 2(-1)e13 .315 21 81 .368 .507 .875 Near career highs in a number of major offensive categories. Later went to AL as DH when slowed by leg injuries. Belted 350 HRs during his career and has two inferior cards. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802864/1680/1/80
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29. 1960 Norm Cash Det 1B-4(e14), 4R no gbA's! over 400 OBP and over 500 SLG. 7 errors but most importantly. never hit into a Double Play the whole season. be a nice economical addition and provide a First Baseman that's not your normal Double Play Machine!
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30. 2003 Scott Rolen STL 3B, one of his top seasons, stellar defense as usual, hit lefties a bit better -- 49 doubles! .286 BA, .382 OBP, .528 SA, 28HRs, 13 steals. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/998/1700/1/120
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31. 1979 Gene Tenace SD C .263 BA, .403 OBP, .445 SLG, .848 OPS. Defensively threw out almost 50% of SB attempts with 1 error. A vast improvement over his current card, this gives the Padres a far better option at C than they currently have. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/741940/1670/1/70
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32. 1894 Lave Cross PHI NL 3B .387 avg/ .424 obp/ .526 Slg
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33. 1993 Lou Whitaker Det 2b 8r 861 OPS
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34. 1987 Matt Nokes DET C . .289 32 Hr 5R. 3rd in ROY, Silver Slugger, only All-Star season. Much more of a platoon card then his current Yankee card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/838899/1680/1/80
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35. 2006 Grady Sizemore CLE CF 53 doubles. Bulletproof. Hits rhp really well. Great hitter until injuries happened. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1069/1700/1/120
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36. 1878 John Ward PRO SP - 1.51 ERA as an 18yo rookie. Hall of Famer with only one card currently, a 95-cent hitting card. https://max.strat-o-matic.com/stats-and ... ?year=1878
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37. 1969 Jim Northrup DET All OF spots. .295/.358/.508. Easily his best season in terms of power. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/38928/1969/4/1969
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38. 1965 Fred Whitfield - Clev Indians - 1B .293 AVG .829 OPS 131 OPS+ 468 AB-26 HRS...21st MVP voting LHB and 80% AB against RHP (382 out of 492...110 AB only against LHP).....against RHP......365 AB, 21 HRs, .307 BA, .534 SLUG, .865 OPS hit a paltry .767 OPS and 83 OPS+ at cavernous Municipal Stadium but made up for it on the road blasting .888 OPS and 116 OPS+ major element of that good mid-60s Tribe team https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/42865/1660/1/60
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39. 1985 Mike Scioscia .296/.403/.420 Big improvement over his current ATG card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/840781/1680/1/80
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40. 1993 Tim Raines .306/.401/.480, White Sox exp set lacks decent options for lead off hitters in franchise/era leagues, Raines was a key piece to the good White Sox teams in the early/mid 90's, he does not have a card version from his time with the White Sox in the set
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41. 1890 Kid Gleason 38-17 2.63 - Watching 8 Men Out again, it occurred to me that we should have a Kid Gleason pitching card. This would appear to be his best season.
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42. 1975 Doug Rau, LAD, LH SP*, 3R / 257.2 IP, 15-9, 3.07 ERA, 1.118 WHIP. Stingy with walks and XBH. Good fielding, WP, BK, etc. ratings. Hard to find 3-day-rest LHSP who are tougher on righties at a reasonable price point. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/739903/1670/1/70
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43. 1930 Ed Morgan 1B, Cleveland Indians, 3 game injury risk, RH hitter slashed .349/.413/.601, 47 doubles, 11 triples, 26 HR's. Love his current ATG card, this one should be even better!
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44. 1931 Al Simmons, A's, OF, Bats R .390 22 128 .444 .641 1.085 Led AL in batting for the 2nd straight year. Career high in OBP and OPS+, 2nd career high in TR, OPS and batting. Near career high in SLG. 3rd in MVP voting.
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45. 1988 Gary Gaetti MIN 3B - It would be his best card. He is a 1e10 at 3B that season. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/803208/1680/1/80
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46. 1981 Carney Lansford 3B AL batting champion, good hit man @ .336
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47. 2019 Anthony Rendon WAS 3B-1e13, bats R E. 3B can use more options, IMHO. Great year before he joined the Angeles to deal with Covid-19, the AL, injuries, and well...the Angeles karma. .319/.412/.598 slash line. 117 runs, 34 HRs, 126 RBI. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91815/2019/1/2019
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48. 1971 Al Downing, LHP Los Angeles. 20 wins, 2.68, 5R. We need a better Al Downing card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/33188/1971/4/1971
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49. 2019 Yoan Moncada, CHW, 3B, Switch hitter, EXP White Sox need help @ 3B. .315/.367/.548 (NO CARD IN SET) 2R https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93625/2019/1/2019
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50. 1936 Gee Walker, OF, Detroit Tigers, solid hitter for years needs a better card, slashed .353/.387/.536 with 55 doubles 12 homers and 17 Steals
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scorehouse

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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Feb 27, 2024 1:50 pm

we don't need more 3b's. the free agent list is littered with RHB 3b's balance L that NEVER get used. need more inexpensive excellent fielding Mid Infers but people never vote for them?
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Feb 27, 2024 1:52 pm

Darwin Barney is a great/perfect example. he's making some headway vote wise but doubt he'll get there?
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Feb 27, 2024 2:35 pm

It's mostly a matter of opinion and personal preference. For me, the Barney card doesn't move the needle at all. I prefer Soriano and Whitaker, which are cards I know I will use, barring something unexpected with their pricing.

I do see a need for more lefty-hitting catchers and third baseman that can really hit righties well. And there are still plenty of weaknesses in exp-era franchises that can be filled.

I play in a lot of leagues, but would never claim to know for sure that certain cards aren't being used. I see many cards being used in leagues that I have never even considered.
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

If there’s a shortage of LH hitters, it’s at SS.
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Feb 27, 2024 5:13 pm

andycummings65 wrote:If there’s a shortage of LH hitters, it’s at SS.


I certainly don't disagree with that Andy. Not sure there are that many good ones out there though. I'll have to take a look.
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Feb 27, 2024 10:06 pm

BC15NY wrote:
andycummings65 wrote:If there’s a shortage of LH hitters, it’s at SS.


I certainly don't disagree with that Andy. Not sure there are that many good ones out there though. I'll have to take a look.



Vaughan , Crawford , Seager , Pop Lloyd , Pesky , Hollocher , Gregorious, Gullien , Drew , Wilson, Tavaner are the best ones we have available to use as of now. These are all 1’s and 2’s defensively at least. These a bunch more that have eligibility but these would be the ones that get the most use. 2021 Jake Croninworth would have ss eligibility could be a decent add next time
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Feb 28, 2024 8:06 am

Thanks Matt, but I was referring to looking for potential candidates for addition to the set. Note: Cronenworth was voted in with 23.4. I'll be using his card as a 2b-1 though, not a SS-2.
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Feb 28, 2024 9:57 am

there's 3 pages of Switch-Hitting Short Stops. most never will be used due to Fielding. historically. with the AB/PA nom requirement, don't know if there are that many LHB SS's left in MLB database?
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Feb 28, 2024 10:01 am

Oh nice I either forgot he got voted in or didn’t remember. I think outside what we have it’ll be mostly guys with shortstop as a secondary position. And I get why you’d use him at 2b (croninworth) but when constructing a lefty team the ss2 might work with pricing / team fit.
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Re: 24.1 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Feb 28, 2024 5:29 pm

scorehouse wrote:there's 3 pages of Switch-Hitting Short Stops. most never will be used due to Fielding. historically. with the AB/PA nom requirement, don't know if there are that many LHB SS's left in MLB database?


Here are three lh ss for those not adverse to using unknown names...no guarantee as to defense...

1884 Jack Rowe
1887 Sam Wise
1891 Frank Shugart
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