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Poll ended at Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:55 pm

1. 2005 Andy Pettitte HOU SP-7* 2L 17-9 2.39era 1.03whip 222ip 171k cya-5 mvp-24. Pettitte's best card. Only ATG card is the 1997 5R version. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3116/1700/1/120
53
3%
2. 2009 Huston Street COL P. 3.06ERA 0.91WHIP 35Saves and huge K numbers vs righties. The Rockies have a lack of quality arms in ATG and a strong bullpen arm would be a big help. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90569/2009/1/2009
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2%
3. 1984 Dan Gladden SF Bats-R BAL-2L CF-2(0)e6 .351 4 31 .408 .447 Career highs in BA, OBP, SLG, OPS & OPS+. Near career high in SB. Would make a good lead off man and would fill the CF hole for the Expansion Era Giants in franchise leagues. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/834398/1680/1/80
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4. 2001 Paul Lo Duca LA Bats-R BAL-5L C-2(-1)e3, 1b-3e14, LF-4(0)e25 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating) https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/666/1700/1/120
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5.1931 Lu Blue CWS 1B 726 PA (probably bullet proof) .304BA .430 OBP
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2%
6. 1999 Jeff Bagwell Hou 1b .304/.454/.591 42 hrs 30 sb 149bb 162 games played https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3581/1690/1/90
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7. 1934 Mickey Cochrane Det C AL MVP
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3%
8. 1959 Hal Smith St Louis Cardinals C 474 PA, 13 HR, 50 RBI, .270 BA, All-Star
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1%
9. 1955 Elmer Valo KC OF Bats L .364/.460/.484
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10. 1949 Dave Koslo NYG SP/Rel P Led NL in ERA & WHIP no card. 13 year career, while missing 3 years to Service in WW II
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11. 1978 Bob Shirley SD 11 years, his only other card is .66 reliever. In 1978 he is a 6/3 (no *) 9L, very useful https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/741013/1670/1/70
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12. 1999 Todd Zeile TEX 3B, 16 yrs w/no card, 160 gms, .293/.354/.488, 41 doubles, 1B eligible https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3940/1999/1/1999
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13. 1971 Pat Dobson BAL RHSP* - The '71 Orioles were likely the last MLB team we'll ever see with 4 20-game winners. Dobson was 20-8, 18 CG, 282 IP, 2.90 ERA 1.10 WHIP. Easily his most successful season. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/733085/1670/1/70
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14. 2013 Clay Buchholz BOS RHSP -- S7 12-1, 1.75 ERA, 1.025 WHIP, 237 ERA+, what could have been if it hadn't been for a bad neck...important member of the World Series champs. No Card https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90684/2013/1/2013
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3%
15. 2002 Mike Remlinger ATL LHRP L-3R 7-3, 1.99 ERA, 1.12 WHIP; need more lefty relief pitchers and players to represent the dominant Braves teams from the late 90's, early 2000's. No Card https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3725/1700/1/120
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2%
16. 1990 Cal Ripken Bal SS all time record for fewest errors by a SS in a season. plus hit 20+ HR's and 20+ Doubles, and for icing on the cake, he's bullet proof, so no money wasted on a backup. we deserve the fewest errors ever in a season at SS. we have CF and 2b covered, time for the anchor position, the SS.
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2%
17. 2019 Mike Trout MVP .291/.438/.645 with 104 RBIs, 110 runs and 11 stolen bases in 134 games. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91459/2019/1/2019
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3%
18.1991 Terry Pendleton 1991 NL MVP. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/803545/1680/1/80
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2%
19. 1986 Mike Schmidt 1986 NL MVP and GG, 37 HR, 119 RBI, more BBs than Ks - all at age 37. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/40700/1986/1/101
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20. 1935 Hank Greenberg,1b AL MVP - 36 Home Runs, 168 RBI
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3%
21. 2004 Vlad Guerrero OF - MVP - 156 games played 39 HR, 126RBIs, .337BA/206 hits, 124 runs scored, led AL with 4.7 WAR https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/453/1700/1/120
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22. 1973 Pete Rose Cin Lf MVP (nominated by the biomechanical man)
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23. 1996 Reggie Jefferson, 1B/LF, Bats L, Red Sox .347 19 74 .388 .593 .981. Career highs in BA, TR, HR, RBI, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in R, H, 2B, BB, TB. 5R. Professional hitter, similar to Mike Easler. .300 career BA. No card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/2787/1690/1/90
40
2%
24. 1963 Elston Howard, C. AL MVP. .287/.342/.528. 5 errors and 8 passed balls in 132 games for AL champions. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/35630/1660/1/60
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25. 1976 Thurman Munson, C, NYY. AL MVP that year. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738637/1670/1/70
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26. 2002 Jarrod Washburn SP* Anaheim Angels- 18-6 3.15 - there are ZERO players from the 2002 Champions in the set. NO CARD. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/7926/1700/1/120
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2%
27. 1974 Don Money 3b, Milwaukee, AL, all-star, 709 PA (no injury), only 5 errors in full season at 3b (great fit with nomination #16 above) https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738385/1670/1/70
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2%
28. 1883 Jim McCormick, SP, CLV. 1.84 ERA over 342 innings. Only 74 players in MLB history have more career WAR than McCormick but he has no ATG card
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3%
29. 2002 Matt Clement CHC SP(hopefully '*') no card yet http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/NDeOm https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/8272/1700/1/120
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1%
30. 2003 Rheal Cormier Phillies Throws Left Bal 2L End R2 15 year career. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/2754/1700/1/120
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31. 2005 Billy Wagner RP PHI better version of 2004 Wagner. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1062/1700/1/120
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32. 1973 John Hiller. His best season by far. Had an ERA of 1.44, WHIP of 1.02. Nearly doubled his best WAR, getting a 7.9. It would be nice to have this lefty's best season. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735392/1670/1/70
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3%
33. 2019 Alex Bregman Astros, 3rd base, .296, .423 ob, 41 HR, 112 RBI, Led league in walks, AS, SS and 2nd in MVP. Astros need more hitters. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93572/2019/1/2019
41
2%
34. 2006 Raul Ibanez, SEA, .289/.353/.516, 33 HR, 123 RBI, 5R Balance, LF-4(0)e2, Longest Tenured Mariner with No card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/547/1700/1/120
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2%
35. 2002 Randy Winn TAMPA .298/.360/.461 CF/RF 2e3(0) Gives Tampa a solid outfielder. NO CARD https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1243/1700/1/120
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2%
36. 1996 John Jaha MIL .300/.398/.543 NO CARD https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3048/1690/1/90 Visick Proxy
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1%
37. 1983 Roy Smalley NYY Exp Yanks need a decent hitting cheaper SS not named Jeter. His 2nd best OPS season at .810, only one other cheapo .50 card of his is in ATG https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/841166/1680/1/80
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1%
38. 1966 Jim Nash, RHSP, A's 12-1 2.06 1.118 3L Career bests in W%, ERA, HR9 & H9. Near career bests in WHIP & SO/9. 2nd in AL ROY voting. Good young pitcher who put it all together for a couple of years for the abysmal but promising post WWII A's before being derailed by arm trouble. No BP hits vs. lefties & no HR chances on entire card. No ATG card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/38756/1660/1/60
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3%
39. 2004 Oliver Perez. Lefty SP, 1L. 196 innings pitched, 239 strikeouts. 2.98 ERA, 1.15 WHIP. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90453/1700/1/120
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1%
40. 2014 Clayton Kershaw's LA SP he won the MVP and Cy Young then, best full season ERA+ season, 1.77 ERA, 1.81 FIP, 7.7 Ks to walks https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90725/2014/1/2014
54
3%
41. 2000 Jim Edmonds STL, CF/1B, .295/.411/.583, 42 HR. Really underappreciated player who deserves more than one card. This one is similar to his ‘04 card, but ought to be more durable with his usual stellar defense.
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3%
42. 1991 Bill Pecota, KCR, Utility, primarily 3B, But had starts at 2B and SS. 286/356/399. 16 SBs. Good backup for rosters of 13 hitters, as he can hit a bit, steal, and play multiple positions. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/39367/1690/1/90
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1%
43. 2019 Juan Soto LF Washington nationals. .282 / .401 /.548 34 hrs https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94202/2019/1/2019
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2%
44. 2002 Alex Rodriguez, TEX, Bats-R, BAL-6R, SS-2e10, BULLETPROOF https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/990/1700/1/120
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2%
45. 1905 Andy Coakley PHA RHP 18-8 1.84/146 era+/1.176 whip...labor pioneer and Lou Gehrig's coach...no card
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46. 2017 Nelson Cruz. DH/RF. 39 HRs. 119 RBI (led league). .924 OPS. 7-time all star who has one card in the deck that is a platoon card with a high injury chance. This one is more indicative of his peak performance. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/268/2017/1/2017
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2%
47. 2013 Yasiel Puig, Dodgers, RHB, RF 2(-5)e9, LF 3 .319 19 42 .391 .534 .925. Career highs in BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Much better than the current ATG Puig card. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91812/2013/1/20714
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48. 2005 Richie Sexson SEA Bats-R BAL-4L 1b-3e8 INJ Risk-3 Good 2000s power source, this is his best card
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2%
49. 2007 Jorge Posada, Yankees, c-2(0)e4,T-2(pb-4) / 1b-4e25, Switch hitter. .338 20 90 .426 .543 .970. Career highs in H, 2B (42!), BA, OBP, SLG, TB, OPS & 0PS+. Silver Slugger. 17 year career, 5x All Star. This card has more hits than Posada’s lone card, which chronically under performs. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/920/2007/1/20714
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3%
50. 1916 Rube Marquard LHP His best card, and a great 5 day rotation ace.
48
2%
 
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BC15NY

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22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Jun 13, 2022 7:55 pm

Greetings,

Poll is up for the 22.2 new card add.

Andy's Strat Stats posted at the link below. Please take time to check them out before voting.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=651583

Thanks,
Bill
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Jun 14, 2022 8:58 am

A brief plug for one of our holdover nominees...

2007 Jorge Posada - while the overall OPS numbers are very similar to the current 2000 Posada card, the .424 batting average vs righties in 2007 makes it a different card from the .279 vs righties 2000 edition. Posada hit .338 in 2007 vs .287 in 2000. We should add this card.
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Jun 14, 2022 7:45 pm

BC15NY wrote:A brief plug for one of our holdover nominees...

2007 Jorge Posada - while the overall OPS numbers are very similar to the current 2000 Posada card, the .424 batting average vs righties in 2007 makes it a different card from the .279 vs righties 2000 edition. Posada hit .338 in 2007 vs .287 in 2000. We should add this card.



Hip Hip...Jorge! Hip Hip...Jorge!

And his poker buddy Smalley :)
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Jun 15, 2022 4:02 pm

It's pretty obvious that my agenda in voting is a lot different from the norm :lol:
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Jun 15, 2022 9:25 pm

STEVE F wrote:It's pretty obvious that my agenda in voting is a lot different from the norm :lol:



Mine is to get all the MVP and CY winners represented in the season they actually won. It will take some time. 9 of the 37 non carded MVP seasons are on this ballot.
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Jun 15, 2022 10:23 pm

Excellent!! Looks like a nice crop of candidates.
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 7:52 pm

Here are the results of our 22.1 new card poll.

To be sent to Strat (along with 3 from 21.4) -
1912 Walter Johnson WASH 54
2017 Joey Votto Cin 1B 50
1999 John Rocker ATL RP 49
1971 Bill Melton CWS 3B 46
1933 Hal Schumacher NYG SP 46
1999 Nomar Garciaparra BOS 46
1971 Willie Davis LA CF 45
2018 Blake Treinen OAK RP 45
2003 Rheal Cormier PHI RP 45
1965 Deron Johnson CIN 3B 44
2005 Morgan Ensberg Astros 3B 43
1962 George Altman CHC 1B-OF 43
1978 Ivan DeJesus CHC SS 41
1975 Goose Gossage CHW RP 41
1982 Willie Wilson, KC OF 41
2004 Bobby Abreu PHI RF 40
1986 Phil Bradley SEA OF 40
1968 Don Drysdale LA SP 40
1886 Charlie Ferguson SP 39
1993 Ron Karkovice CWS C 37
1980 Ron Davis NY RP 36
2001 Bob Wickman CLE RP 36
1982 Terry Kennedy- SD C (21.4)
2001 Eric Chavez, OAK 3b (21.4)
1935 Joe Vosmik CLE (21.4)

So we are voting on a player that has already been voted in. His name is.....2003 Rheal Cormier PHI RP.
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 9:01 pm

Nice catch Frank.

Sorry I missed that. No harm done though.

Thanks,
Bill
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Jun 17, 2022 11:44 am

I can't envision any league where the 1974 Don Money wouldn't be a viable option at 3b. with a 1e13, B stealing and 1-15 running. Price should be moderate as well.
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Re: 22.2 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Jun 17, 2022 3:36 pm

STEVE F wrote:I can't envision any league where the 1974 Don Money wouldn't be a viable option at 3b. with a 1e13, B stealing and 1-15 running. Price should be moderate as well.


I believe the 1974 Don Money card should be a 1e5 at 3b.
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