22.1 Results

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STEVE F

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Re: 22.1 Results

PostMon Feb 07, 2022 3:47 pm

Don't be such a downer, man. ;)
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Re: 22.1 Results

PostTue Feb 08, 2022 7:53 am

scorehouse wrote:most of these cards will never get used but neither do most of the cards in the data base. every league is a dogfight for Tekulve, Duncan, Mercer, Blowers, Collins, Suzuki, Weintraub, Berra(4L), cheap Carew, etc. for platoon baseball. with the AB and IP nomination requirements, there r better options already in the player pool. Pitching is different and more dependent on price and BP effects especially Slant.


Duncan Mercer, Weintraub are the batting equivalent of seeing the old Duren, Pineiro, Donald rotation stalwarts. Then again I see ‘roid Bonds in every league, too, as well as 57 versions of Forbes field, and those slap-happy, pre-1900 pseudo-baseball era players.

Do I get tired of seeing the same old cards in every damned league? The same strategies? Yep. But it’s everyone’s dime, so they can draft who they want. This is why I run a league that shuffles the deck (getting managers to join open random leagues ain’t happenin’).

Rant aside, the player pool is loaded with high end options. I appreciate midrange adds. I also like the new player adds. We have multiple versions of some of some players, and zero of others.
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Re: 22.1 Results

PostWed Feb 09, 2022 10:20 pm

BC15NY wrote:Greetings,

Here are the results of our 22.1 new card poll.

To be sent to Strat (along with 3 from 21.4) -
1912 Walter Johnson WASH 54
2017 Joey Votto Cin 1B 50
1999 John Rocker ATL RP 49
1971 Bill Melton CWS 3B 46
1933 Hal Schumacher NYG SP 46
1999 Nomar Garciaparra BOS 46
1971 Willie Davis LA CF 45
2018 Blake Treinen OAK RP 45
2003 Rheal Cormier PHI RP 45
1965 Deron Johnson CIN 3B 44
2005 Morgan Ensberg Astros 3B 43
1962 George Altman CHC 1B-OF 43
1978 Ivan DeJesus CHC SS 41
1975 Goose Gossage CHW RP 41
1982 Willie Wilson, KC OF 41
2004 Bobby Abreu PHI RF 40
1986 Phil Bradley SEA OF 40
1968 Don Drysdale LA SP 40
1886 Charlie Ferguson SP 39
1993 Ron Karkovice CWS C 37
1980 Ron Davis NY RP 36
2001 Bob Wickman CLE RP 36
1982 Terry Kennedy- SD C (21.4)
2001 Eric Chavez, OAK 3b (21.4)
1935 Joe Vosmik CLE (21.4)

To be included in the 22.2 poll -
2002 Alex Rodriguez TEX SS 35
1916 Rube Marquard LHP 33
2013 Yasiel Puig, Dodgers RF 33
2007 Jorge Posada Yankees C 32
1905 Andy Coakley PHA RHP 31
2019 Juan Soto WASH LF 30
2005 Richie Sexson SEA 27
2017 Nelson Cruz. DH/RF 24

Thanks,
Bill




That's a good list of additions. I particularly like Votto, Ensberg, Abreu, Dejesus, Goosage, Wickman , Willie Wilson and Nomar.

It's too bad Juan Soto didn't make the cut.
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Re: 22.1 Results

PostThu Feb 10, 2022 4:56 pm

BC15NY wrote:
visick wrote:"I am sure people who nominate a card use the card they nominated"

Highly doubtful


Why is that highly doubtful? What's the point otherwise.

I always use the cards I nominate, when they get voted in.


Admittedly, I am jumping in mid convo here, but in my opinion, I don't leave cards in the FA pile because I don't like them, but because the price that is set for them makes them a poor bargain. So as everyone sits here and nominates cards, I am sure they don't do it thinking they are going to nominate them with no plans to use them, and in fact I bet most people are actually looking forward to using them, but then the price tag comes out and everyone says, "I am not going to use them at that cost". Nominating the best cards is just part of it. The pricing is the part that really sets what cards will eventually get used and that is totally out of this groups control.

Just my 2 cents. I still like reading through the nominations just to learn a bit more about the players and sometimes it drives me to go look them up because I find out something I didn't know.
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Re: 22.1 Results

PostTue Apr 12, 2022 12:25 pm

Chris.sied(@yahoo) wrote:

Admittedly, I am jumping in mid convo here, but in my opinion, I don't leave cards in the FA pile because I don't like them, but because the price that is set for them makes them a poor bargain. So as everyone sits here and nominates cards, I am sure they don't do it thinking they are going to nominate them with no plans to use them, and in fact I bet most people are actually looking forward to using them, but then the price tag comes out and everyone says, "I am not going to use them at that cost". Nominating the best cards is just part of it. The pricing is the part that really sets what cards will eventually get used and that is totally out of this groups control.


fwiw, I feel much the same way.

I know I try to use players I have asked for, check my teams for evidence of my hero Dick Ellsworth, though I never did get the correct Steve Ontiveros (I was hoping for the SH 3b, not the pitcher)

it does seem to me that with the 'propagation' of leagues with special considerations/constraints, a case could be made for just about any player, yes, even Eddie Gaedel (if he is a DH with all walks against LHP and no onbase against RHPs (just a mixture of outs, a mixture of strikeouts, gb(p)As, popups, and maybe even gb(c)As (groundballs fielded by the catcher - a new kind of result)) and is an E, 1-6 on the bases
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