Nomination Ideas--STARTING PITCHER IMPROVEMENTS

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Nomination Ideas--STARTING PITCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostTue Jun 02, 2020 10:26 pm

STARTER PITCHER IMPROVEMENTS

**NOTE: Until I get all information in, SPs are either notated as S7*, S7x, or S7-.
S7* = SP that needs only 3 days rest
S7x = SP that needs 4 days rest
S7- = To be Determined , still waiting on Information

1920 Pete Alexander CHC Throws-R BAL-1L END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-9 .118/.192/.155 OPS-.347
RH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.8 HR-0.6 BB-0 .161/.161/.203 OPS-.364
1915 Current Alexander, Pete Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-1 .096/.104/.096 OPS-.200
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-1 .093/.102/.093 OPS-.195
1916 Current Alexander, Pete Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.3 BB-0 .162/.162/.183 OPS-.345
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.3 BB-0 .159/.159/.181 OPS-.340
1920 Pete Led League with 27 wins, 173 K, and a 1.91 ERA. As good as Pete’s 1916 card, but in this one he’s a Cub.


1935 Johnny Allen NYY Throws-R BAL-E END-S7-
LH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.8 HR-2.4 BB-7 .157/.212/.275 OPS-.487
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.8 HR-2.2 BB-7 .151/.206/.262 OPS-.468
1932 Current Allen, Johnny Throws-R BAL-E END-S7/R5
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-1.0 HR-1.3 BB-10 .133/.213/.222 OPS-.435
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-1.0 HR-1.3 BB-10 .130/.211/.219 OPS-.430
Led AL in Fewest Hits per/9 and Most K per/9, not much better than the one we have though


1959 Johnny Antonelli SF Throws-L BAL-6L END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 2.2 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-5 .038/.082/.068 OPS-.150
RH--2b- 2.2 3b-0.4 HR-3.6 BB-5 .190/.227/.323 OPS-.551
1958 Current Antonelli, Johnny Throws-L BAL-3L END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-1.3 HR-2.4 BB-8 .105/.171/.207 OPS-.378
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-1.3 HR-4.4 BB-9 .167/.237/.349 OPS-.586
1956 Current Antonelli, Johnny Throws-L BAL-5R END-S8*/R4
LH--2b- 5.4 3b-1.0 HR-5.0 BB-14 .172/.279/.410 OPS-.689
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-2.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .135/.151/.173 OPS-.324
Most Antonelli’s are balanced toward RH and give up a lot of HRs. 1959 makes him a hard Lefty vs LH, might get used in Lefty parks, currently is not used very often


1915 Doc Ayers WAS Throws-R BAL-E END-S9/R5-
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-0 .165/.165/.195 OPS-.360
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-0 .163/.163/.193 OPS-.356
1917 Current Ayers, Doc Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-5 .196/.233/.241 OPS-.474
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-5 .193/.231/.238 OPS-.469
An improvement for Ayers, pretty good stats


1982 Floyd Bannister SEA Throws-L BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.0 HR-4.3 BB-11 .198.280/.336 OPS-.616
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-0.2 HR-3.6 BB-8 .166/.228/.335 OPS-.563
1984 Current Bannister, Floyd Throws-L BAL-1R END-S6*
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.0 HR-7.0 BB-14 .215/.317/.465 OPS-.782
RH--2b- 6.0 3b-0.6 HR-5.5 BB-9 .180/.248/.419 OPS-.667
All Star, Led League in K, somewhat better than current


1950 Vern Bickford BSB Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9*
LH--2b- 7.4 3b-0.2 HR-2.0 BB-9 .215/.280/.352 OPS-.632
RH--2b- 5.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-7 .198/.250/.297 OPS-.547
1952 Current Bickford, Vern Throws-R BAL-E END-S7
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.2 BB-10 .232/.303/.292 OPS-.595
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.2 BB-10 .227/.299/.288 OPS-.587
Led League with 27 Complete Games in 1950, only real improvement is getting the *


1950 Ewell Blackwell CIN Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8/R3
LH--2b- 5.6 3b-1.2 HR-0.0 BB-11 .164/.249/.246 OPS-.495
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-10 .055/.143/.086 OPS-.229
1947 Current Blackwell, Ewell Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.3 HR-0.0 BB-8 .138/.202/.151 OPS-.353
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.3 HR-0.0 BB-8 .136/.200/.149 OPS-.349
1951 Current Blackwell, Ewell Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.2 HR-4.0 BB-11 .187/.270/.359 OPS-.629
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-11 .098/.190/.143 OPS-.333
The Whip led the NL in Fewest Hits per/9and most K per/9. This card beats his other 4R card by a good margin


1942 Tiny Bonham NYY Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R2
LH—2b-1.3 3b-0.4 HR-1.5 BB-0 .194/.194/.255 OPS-.449
RH—2b-1.3 3b-0.2 HR-1.6 BB-0 .201/.201/.259 OPS-.460
1941 Current Bonham, Tiny NYY Throws-R BAL-2R END-S9/R5
LH—2b-2.2 3b-0 HR-4.3 BB-4 .230/.258/.375 OPS-.633
RH—2b-4.3 3b-0.5 HR-3 BB-1 .187/.194/.320 OPS-.514
Led League in WHIP in 1942, one the first pioneers of the forkball, or split finger fastball. Would be an improvement. Died close to the end of the 1949 season with intestinal cancer.


1933 Tommy Bridges DET Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5-
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.5 BB-14 .126/.239/.176 OPS-.414
RH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.5 HR-0.4 BB-14 .106/.222/.136 OPS-.358
1940 Current Bridges, Tommy Throws-R BAL-E END-S7
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-1.1 BB-12 .148/.243/.223 OPS-.466
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-1.1 BB-12 .146/.241/.221 OPS-.462
1943 Current Bridges, Tommy Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.2 HR-1.5 BB-7 .186/.239/.254 OPS-.493
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.2 HR-1.5 BB-7 .181/.234/.247 OPS-.481
1936 Current Bridges, Tommy Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.6 HR-2.2 BB-9 .178/.247/.280 OPS-.527
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.6 HR-2.2 BB-9 .178/.247/.280 OPS-.527
This would be his best card, led League in Fewest Hits per/9


1909 Three Finger Brown CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.3 HR-0.0 BB-0 .120/.120/.126 OPS-.246
RH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.3 HR-0.0 BB-0 .113/.113/.119 OPS-.232
1906 Current Brown, Three Finger Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-3 .121/.145/.121 OPS-.266
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-3 .118/.143/.118 OPS-.261
1908 Current Brown, Three Finger Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 0.9 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-1 .107/.115/.124 OPS-.239
RH--2b- 0.9 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-1 .107/.115/.124 OPS-.239
Led League with 27 wins and 7 Saves, similar to his other cards though


2001 Mark Buehrle CWS Throws- L BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-3.4 BB-0 .130/.130/.256 OPS-.385
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.6 HR-2.6 BB-4 .150/.182/.284 OPS-.466
2007 Current Buehrle, Mark Throws-L BAL-7R END-S7*
LH--2b- 13.8 3b-0.0 HR-3.9 BB-3 .320/.339/.563 OPS-.902
RH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.2 HR-2.2 BB-1 .211/.219/.311 OPS-.530
Led League with a 1.06 WHIP, this is a big improvement for a longtime starter


1960 Jim Bunning DET Throws-R BAL-3R END-S7/R3-
LH--2b- 9.0 3b-1.2 HR-1.8 BB-9 .196/.263/.366 OPS-.630
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-0 .165/.165/.240 OPS-.405
1961 Jim Bunning DET Throws-R BAL-2R END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-1.5 HR-2.3 BB-7 .175/.229/.291 OPS-.519
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-1 .152/.160/.250 OPS-.410
1967 Jim Bunning PHI Throws-R BAL-1R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.3 HR-1.1 BB-5 .157/.196/.230 OPS-.426
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.6 HR-1.5 BB-2 .114/.130/.203 OPS-.333
1966 Current Bunning, Jim Throws-R BAL-2L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.5 HR-1.8 BB-4 .107/.140/.202 OPS-.342
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.8 HR-2.4 BB-0 .168/.168/.284 OPS-.452
Very good pitcher who doesn’t seem to translate great to Strat. That 1967 Phillies card would be different and an improvement.


1993 John Burkett SF Throws-R BAL-3R END-S7-
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.3 BB-0 .284/.284/.362 OPS-.646
RH--2b- 2.7 3b-0.8 HR-2.6 BB-1 .183/.191/.295 OPS-.486
1991 Current Burkett, John Throws-R BAL-4R END-S6*
LH--2b- 6.5 3b-0.0 HR-4.3 BB-6 .285/.325/.474 OPS-.799
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.8 BB-6 .232/.275/.258 OPS-.533
Went 22-7 in ’93, 2nd in Cy Young Vote. 1993 is an improvement


1998 Bartolo Colon CLE Throws-R BAL-3R END-S6-
LH--2b- 8.6 3b-0.3 HR-1.7 BB-10 .224/.296/.369 OPS-.665
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-9 .183/.251/.212 OPS-.463
2005 Current Colon, Bartolo Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.3 HR-3.9 BB-5 .185/.223/.351 OPS-.574
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.8 HR-2.2 BB-0 .205/.205/.311 OPS-.516
Balanced stronger toward RH, not too much of an improvement over his Cy Young season.


1986 Danny Cox STL Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.2 HR-2.7 BB-4 .188/.218/.314 OPS-.532
RH--2b- 7.9 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-4 .204/.234/.283 OPS-.516
1987 Current Cox, Danny Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 7.1 3b-0.8 HR-1.4 BB-9 .335/.391/.465 OPS-.856
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-1.6 HR-2.7 BB-8 .262/.317/.393 OPS-.710
Had two very strong campaigns in ‘85 and ’86, but all we have is a very poor ’87 card. Important part of 1980s Cardinals and an improvement.


2011 Johnny Cueto CIN Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7x
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.3 BB-9 .137/.209/.187 OPS-.396
RH--2b- 5.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-8 .182/.243/.232 OPS-.475
2014 Current Cueto, Johnny Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-9 .121/.194/.185 OPS-.379
RH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-5 .127/.168/.245 OPS-.413
Not really much different, except doesn’t get the *


1933 Dizzy Dean STL Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.8 HR-1.0 BB-4 .189/.219/.268 OPS-.487
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.8 HR-1.0 BB-4 .185/.215/.262 OPS-.476
1935 Dizzy Dean STL Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.6 HR-1.3 BB-4 .198/.227/.270 OPS-.497
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.6 HR-1.3 BB-4 .195/.225/.265 OPS-.490
1936 Dizzy Dean STL Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.6 HR-2.4 BB-1 .192/.200/.296 OPS-.496
RH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.6 HR-2.5 BB-1 .190/.198/.297 OPS-.495
1937 Dizzy Dean STL Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.5 HR-1.1 BB-0 .214/.214/.270 OPS-.484
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.5 HR-1.1 BB-0 .210/.210/.267 OPS-.477
1934 Current Dean, Dizzy Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-1.3 HR-1.3 BB-5 .148/.187/.239 OPS-.426
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-1.5 HR-0.4 BB-4 .171/.202/.258 OPS-.460
1933 led League in K, 1935 led League with 28 wins and 190 K, 1936 had 7 Saves and was 2nd in MVP.
I’d like to offer another Diz, if you see one you like, take your pick…..


1938 Paul Derringer CIN Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 7.8 3b-1.5 HR-3.3 BB-0 .245/.245/.437 OPS-.682
RH--2b- 8.0 3b-1.0 HR-2.2 BB-0 .181/.181/.335 OPS-.516
1940 Current Derringer, Paul Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.8 HR-1.9 BB-0 .196 .196/.289 OPS-.485
RH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.8 HR-1.9 BB-0 .194 .194/.287 OPS-.481
Not an improvement


1983 Rich Dotson CWS Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.4 HR-2.3 BB-15 .181/.294/.275 OPS-.570
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-15 .142/.261/.232 OPS-.493
1982 Current Dotson, Richard Throws-R BAL-1L END-S6
LH--2b- 6.5 3b-0.0 HR-2.4 BB-4 .245/.273/.377 OPS-.650
RH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.8 HR-3.0 BB-13 .245/.336/.414 OPS-.750
22-7, 4th in Cy Young vote, and better than what we have now.


1985 Dennis Eckersley CHC Throws-R BAL-5R END-S6-
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.3 HR-4.7 BB-0 .234/.234/.410 OPS-.644
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.6 HR-0.2 BB-0 .152/.152/.198 OPS-.350
1979 Current Eckersley, Dennis Throws-R BAL-5R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-5.5 BB-1 .255/.262/.437 OPS-.699
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.3 HR-2.4 BB-5 .124/.165/.249 OPS-.414
Most K per/9, better than 1979 current card.


1952 Carl Erskine BKN Throws-R BAL-E END-S7/R4-
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.2 HR-2.6 BB-8 .145/.209/.245 OPS-.454
RH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.2 HR-2.6 BB-8 .168/.230/.292 OPS-.522
1953 Current Erskine, Carl Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*/R4
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .152/.231/.248 OPS-.479
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .149/.228/.245 OPS-.473
Not much different, though probably a non *, which would be different.


1905 Bob Ewing CIN Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-1.0 HR-0.5 BB-5 .184/.222/.238 OPS-.460
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-1.0 HR-0.5 BB-5 .192/.229/.245 OPS-.474
1906 Bob Ewing CIN Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.1 HR-0.2 BB-2 .172/.188/.221 OPS-.409
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.1 HR-0.2 BB-2 .179/.194/.228 OPS-.422
1907 Bob Ewing CIN Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-5 .167/.206/.191 OPS-.397
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-5 .165/.203/.188 OPS-.392
1904 Current Ewing, Bob Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.6 3b-1.2 HR-0.3 BB-6 .199/.244/.255 OPS-.499
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-1.2 HR-0.3 BB-6 .197/.241/.253 OPS-.494
1907 is an improvement for Ewing, Reds 1900s ace.


1934 Wes Ferrell BOS Throws-R BAL-1L END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .232/.232/.251 OPS-.483
RH--2b- 6.9 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-6 .208/.252/.288 OPS-.540
1930 Wes Ferrell CLE Throws-R BAL-E END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 7.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-9 .173/.242/.280 OPS-.521
RH--2b- 6.2 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-8 .190/.250/.278 OPS-.528
1933 Current Ferrell, Wes Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-1.3 HR-0.8 BB-7 .249/.298/.343 OPS-.641
RH--2b- 4.4 3b-1.3 HR-0.8 BB-7 .245/.294/.337 OPS-.631
Either card is an improvement for Ferrell, one of MLB’s best-hitting pitchers. That 1L 1934 card looks good.


1989 Chuck Finley CAL Throws-L BAL-5L END-S6
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .064/.168/.064 OPS-.231
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.6 BB-14 .197/.301/.288 OPS-.589
1991 Current Finley, Chuck Throws-L BAL-3R END-S7*
LH--2b- 7.0 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-14 .206/.309/.426 OPS-.735
RH--2b- 5.0 3b-0.2 HR-2.1 BB-13 .157/.258/.278 OPS-.536
12 year Angels starter, and the 5L ’89 card, looks like it could get some usage, instead of that current card.


1971 Ken Forsch HOU Throws-R BAL-3L END-S8/R4-
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-9 .132/.205/.149 OPS-.354
RH--2b- 6.0 3b-0.5 HR-2.2 BB-4 .212/.241/.342 OPS-.583
1977 Current Forsch, Ken Throws-R BAL-8L END-S7/R3
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .085/.085/.102 OPS-.187
RH--2b- 7.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .298/.376/.377 OPS-.753
1982 Current Forsch, Ken Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*/R3
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.0 HR-2.7 BB-1 .227/.234/.336 OPS-.570
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-1.3 HR-3.4 BB-7 .213/.264/.378 OPS-.642
This would be an improvement, nice reverse balance….


1975 Bob Forsch STL Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.2 3b-1.2 HR-0.0 BB-4 .178/.208/.213 OPS-.421
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-3.2 BB-6 .176/.222/.300 OPS-.522
1987 Current Forsch, Bob Throws-R BAL-4L END-S6
LH--2b- 5.5 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-4 .235/.263/.303 OPS-.566
RH--2b- 7.8 3b-1.5 HR-4.8 BB-3 .290/.310/.529 OPS-.839
1978 Current Forsch, Bob Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 5.9 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-7 .226/.276/.294 OPS-.570
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.6 HR-2.9 BB-15 .153/.270/.310 OPS-.580
15 year Cardinal, and this slight reverse card would be his best.


1963 Bob Friend PIT Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-1.5 HR-1.1 BB-0 .225/.225/.302 OPS-.528
RH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-0 .185/.185/.231 OPS-.416
1956 Current Friend, Bob Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 6.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.5 BB-6 .204/.249/.284 OPS-.533
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-1.0 HR-2.2 BB-1 .207/.215/.316 OPS-.531
1960 Current Friend, Bob Throws-R BAL-3R END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-3.0 HR-0.6 BB-0 .238/.238/.317 OPS-.555
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.9 HR-1.8 BB-0 .154/.154/.244 OPS-.398
Better than ’56, not better than ’60.


1950 Ned Garver SLB Throws-R BAL-4R END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 6.2 3b-1.4 HR-0.5 BB-9 .242/.306/.346 OPS-.652
RH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.0 HR-2.0 BB-7 .129/.186/.189 OPS-.375
1954 Ned Garver DET Throws-R BAL-1L END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-2.1 BB-2 .160/.176/.252 OPS-.428
RH--2b- 3.1 3b-1.5 HR-2.4 BB-4 .148/.180/.276 OPS-.456
1951 Current Garver, Ned Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.3 HR-0.6 BB-14 .171/.279/.212 OPS-.491
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-4 .174/.204/.285 OPS-.489
1954 is a slight improvement, and gives him a Tigers card.



1972 Bob Gibson STL Throws-R BAL-2R END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.0 HR-0.8 BB-6 .147/.194/.213 OPS-.407
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.5 BB-7 .100/.158/.125 OPS-.283
1966 Current Gibson, Bob Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-10 .127/.208/.236 OPS-.444
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-2.3 HR-0.2 BB-6 .119/.168/.174 OPS-.342
1968 Current Gibson, Bob Throws-R BAL-4R END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-3 .165/.188/.234 OPS-.422
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-3 .060/.086/.060 OPS-.146
1969 Current Gibson, Bob Throws-R BAL-2R END-S9*
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-9 .171/.240/.198 OPS-.438
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-3 .119/.144/.143 OPS-.287
Very similar to his ’69 card.


1945 Steve Gromek CLE Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.3 BB-4 .215/.244/.253 OPS-.497
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.3 BB-4 .211/.240/.249 OPS-.489
1950 Current Gromek, Steve Throws-R BAL-3R END-S6/R3
LH--2b- 7.5 3b-1.2 HR-5.3 BB-5 .195/.232/.444 OPS-.676
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-4 .185/.215/.241 OPS-.456
1954 Current Gromek, Steve Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.0 HR-5.0 BB-6 .143/.191/.335 OPS-.526
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.3 HR-2.0 BB-0 .179/.179/.275 OPS-.454
This would be Gromek’s best card, and would place him in Prewar CLE set.


1978 Larry Gura KC Throws-L BAL-6L END-S8*/R4
LH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-2 .056/.074/.101 OPS-.175
RH--2b- 8.8 3b-0.0 HR-1.8 BB-7 .210/.262/.349 OPS-.611
1980 Current Gura, Larry Throws-L BAL-4L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-2.0 HR-0.0 BB-1 .138/.146/.203 OPS-.349
RH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.4 HR-2.5 BB-6 .230/.273/.363 OPS-.636
7th in Cy Young vote, and very tough against LH, much more than ’80.


2005 Roy Halladay TOR Throws-R BAL-3L END-S7x
LH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .119/.119/.124 OPS-.243
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.5 HR-2.6 BB-0 .156/.156/.266 OPS-.422
2011 Roy Halladay PHI Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-0 .257/.257/.300 OPS-.557
RH--2b- 1.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .144/.144/.156 OPS-.300
2003 Current Halladay, Roy Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.3 HR-2.4 BB-0 .182/.182/.300 OPS-.482
RH--2b- 6.9 3b-1.5 HR-1.1 BB-0 .110/.110/.232 OPS-.342
2010 Current Halladay, Roy Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.8 HR-2.8 BB-0 .220/.220/.354 OPS-.574
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-2.4 BB-0 .172/.172/.270 OPS-.442
That ’05 card would be his best as a Jay, though no *.
The 2011 card would be his best as a Phillie, finished 2nd in Cy Young Vote.
Either card would improve the Hall of Famer…………….


2010 Felix Hernandez SEA Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.6 BB-9 .124/.197/.157 OPS-.354
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.3 BB-3 .138/.162/.215 OPS-.376
2009 Current Hernandez, Felix Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.2 BB-9 .143/.214/.183 OPS-.397
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-5 .153/.192/.164 OPS-.356
2014 Current Hernandez, Felix Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-2 .127/.144/.170 OPS-.314
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-4.4 BB-3 .119/.144/.277 OPS-.421
His Cy Young year, Led League with 2.27 ERA and Fewest Hits per/9. I think it’s an improvement.


1935 Willis Hudlin CLE Throws-R BAL-E END-S7/R5-
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-3 .230/.252/.286 OPS-.538
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-3 .226/.248/.280 OPS-.527
1929 Willis Hudlin CLE Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-4 .220/.249/.265 OPS-.514
RH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-4 .213/.242/.256 OPS-.498
1928 Current Hudlin, Willis Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.4 BB-11 .210/.291/.299 OPS-.590
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.4 BB-11 .207/.288/.296 OPS-.584
1934 Current Hudlin, Willis Throws-R BAL-3R END-S8/R3
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-2.8 HR-0.2 BB-9 .256/.318/.356 OPS-.674
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-4 .190/.220/.276 OPS-.496
1929 would be his best card, no HR on the card


2004 Tim Hudson OAK Throws-R BAL-5R END-S7-
LH--2b- 8.4 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-4 .286/.313/.393 OPS-.706
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .164/.180/.194 OPS-.374
2003 Current Hudson, Tim Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-1 .162/.170/.179 OPS-.349
RH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.2 HR-0.4 BB-6 .150/.197/.167 OPS-.364
Hard vs RH, but not much of an improvement.


1985 Danny Jackson KC Throws-L BAL-2R END-S6-
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-3.0 HR-0.0 BB-13 .253/.343/.347 OPS-.690
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-1.5 HR-0.0 BB-8 .215/.273/.298 OPS-.571
1988 Current Jackson, Danny Throws-L BAL-1R END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-4 .183/.213/.233 OPS-.446
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.6 HR-0.9 BB-7 .122/.179/.199 OPS-.378
Best season as a Royal, but not as good as ’88….


1971 Fergie Jenkins CHC Throws-R BAL-3R ENDS9*
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-2.5 HR-2.8 BB-0 .231/.231/.388 OPS-.619
RH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.5 HR-2.6 BB-0 .147/.147/.262 OPS-.409
1968 Current Jenkins, Fergie Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*
LH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-6 .173/.219/.303 OPS-.522
RH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.0 HR-3.5 BB-0 .161/.161/.310 OPS-.471
1970 Current Jenkins, Fergie Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*
LH--2b- 6.3 3b-1.6 HR-3.1 BB-2 .158/.173/.334 OPS-.507
RH--2b- 4.5 3b-1.2 HR-2.2 BB-0 .148/.148/.273 OPS-.421
1974 Current Jenkins, Fergie Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9*
LH--2b- 6.8 3b-0.2 HR-4.0 BB-0 .175/.175/.353 OPS-.528
RH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.9 BB-0 .115/.115/.207 OPS-.322
In 1971 he won his Cy Young Award, Led League with 24 wins, K/BB ratio was 7.11.
Not a real improvement however…………….


1912 Walter Johnson WAS Throws-R BAL-E END-S9/R5-
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .094/.111/.094 OPS-.205
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .094/.111/.094 OPS-.205
1910 Current Johnson, Walter Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-2 .110/.127/.117 OPS-.244
RH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-2 .110/.127/.117 OPS-.244
1913 Current Johnson, Walter Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-0 .094/.094/.124 OPS-.218
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-0 .094/.094/.124 OPS-.218
I think this card is better, No XBH on card, led League with 1.39 ERA and 0.90 WHIP, 3rd in MVP Vote.


1966 Jim Kaat MIN Throws-L BAL-5L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.0 HR-1.4 BB-1 .080/.088/.155 OPS-.244
RH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.3 HR-2.7 BB-1 .208/.216/.317 OPS-.533
1965 Current Kaat, Jim Throws-L BAL-3L END-S6*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .193/.193/.221 OPS-.414
RH--2b- 2.2 3b-0.3 HR-3.3 BB-3 .239/.260/.359 OPS-.619
1971 Current Kaat, Jim Throws-L BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.4 3b-2.0 HR-2.0 BB-0 .304/.304/.400 OPS-.704
RH--2b- 5.8 3b-0.8 HR-1.3 BB-0 .242/.242/.346 OPS-.588
1972 Current Kaat, Jim Throws-L BAL-2R END-S8
LH--2b- 10.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-2 .198/.213/.336 OPS-.549
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.8 HR-1.1 BB-1 .151/.159/.234 OPS-.393
Won 25 games in 1966, 5L Rating, better than his 1965 card, probably would be his best.


2005 Scott Kazmir TB Throws-L BAL-7L END-S6x
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-14 .011/.139/.011 OPS-.150
RH--2b- 8.6 3b-1.2 HR-0.0 BB-18 .196/.330/.318 OPS-.648
2008 Current Kazmir, Scott Throws-L BAL-5L END-S(5)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-2 .092/.109/.158 OPS-.267
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.3 HR-6.6 BB-18 .116/.263/.379 OPS-.642
Even better vs LH than current card……………………..


1953 Alex Kellner PHA Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8-
LH--2b- 2.9 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-0 .181/.181/.233 OPS-.414
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-2.2 HR-0.0 BB-3 .155/.178/.234 OPS-.412
1951 Current Kellner, Alex Throws-L BAL-3L END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.2 HR-0.0 BB-6 .215/.258/.253 OPS-.511
RH--2b- 7.9 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-13 .209/.305/.438 OPS-.743
Here’s an improvement, this would be a good LHP card………………


1949 Ellis Kinder BOS Throws-R BAL-6L END-S9/R4-
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-8 .160/.222/.187 OPS-.409
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-1.0 HR-4.6 BB-6 .254/.295/.464 OPS-.760
Went 23-6 in 1949, pushing Red Sox to the brink of AL title, would be his only SP card



1979 Jerry Koosman MIN Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8-
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.9 HR-0.0 BB-4 .214/.243/.253 OPS-.496
RH--2b- 6.5 3b-1.2 HR-1.8 BB-8 .230/.287/.373 OPS-.660
1973 Jerry Koosman NYM Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8-
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-2 .158/.174/.228 OPS-.402
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.3 HR-1.9 BB-7 .196/.248/.296 OPS-.544
1977 Current Koosman, Jerry Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.8 3b0.8 HR-0.0 BB-8 .155/.218/.199 OPS-.417
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.3 HR-2.6 BB-8 .132/.196/.239 OPS-.435
1969 Current Koosman, Jerry Throws-L BAL-1L END-S9*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-0 .135/.135/.188 OPS-.323
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.4 HR-1.4 BB-5 .160/.199/.230 OPS-.429
’79 is a Twins card, but neither ’79 or ’73 are improvements.


1966 Sandy Koufax LA Throws-L BAL-1R END-S9*
LH—2b-2 3b-0 HR-0.0 BB-5 .115/.156/.134 OPS-.290
RH—2b-1.8 3b-0 HR-0.9 BB-4 .088/.121/.131 OPS-.252
1964 Current Koufax, Sandy LA Throws-L BAL-1L END-S9*
LH—2b-2.5 3b-0 HR-0.9 BB-4 .050/.085/.100 OPS-.185
RH—2b-1.5 3b-0 HR-1.3 BB-5 .076/.119/.128 OPS-.247
Won Cy Young, Led League in Wins, ERA, and K. Not an improvement, how can you improve on Koufax?



1986 Mike Krukow SF Throws- R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.7 3b-0.8 HR-2.4 BB-6 .161/.207/.291 OPS-.499
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.7 HR-4.6 BB-0 .170/.170/.327 OPS-.498
1983 Current Krukow, Mike Throws-R BAL-1R END-S6
LH--2b- 5.7 3b-0.5 HR-3.3 BB-9 .225/.289/.392 OPS-.681
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.2 HR-2.2 BB-11 .198/.280/.304 OPS-.584
Here’s an improvement for longtime Cubs & Giants pitcher


1965 Vern Law PIT Throws-R BAL-1L END-S8-
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.2 HR-0.9 BB-2 .188/.203/.241 OPS-.443
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.5 HR-4.2 BB-0 .163/.163/.325 OPS-.488
1959 Vern Law PIT Throws-R BAL-5R END-S9/R2-
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-1.9 HR-3.6 BB-0 .225/.225/.399 OPS-.624
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.2 HR-1.9 BB-1 .132/.140/.211 OPS-.351
1966 Current Law, Vern Throws-R BAL-5L END-S7
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.0 BB-0 .238/.238/.329 OPS-.567
RH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.8 HR-5.1 BB-0 .335/.335/.540 OPS-.875
1960 Current Law, Vern Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-1.8 HR-2.4 BB-0 .200/.200/.332 OPS-.532
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-3.6 BB-0 .224/.224/.355 OPS-.579
1965 would be his best card………………….1959 is harder vs RH


1984 Charlie Lea MON Throws-R BAL-5R END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.8 HR-3.2 BB-11 .222/.301/.386 OPS-.686
RH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.6 HR-2.4 BB-4 .108/.141/.230 OPS-.371
1980 Current Lea, Charlie Throws-R BAL-3R END-S6
LH--2b- 5.2 3b-1.3 HR-1.5 BB-19 .280/.407/.417 OPS-.824
RH--2b- 10.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-15 .180/.294/.293 OPS-.587
Injured after this 1984 season, his best…….


2009 Cliff Lee PHI Throw-L BAL-5L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.3 HR-0.2 BB-0 .159/.159/.186 OPS-.345
RH--2b- 7.9 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-1 .264/.270/.368 OPS-.639
2011 Cliff Lee PHI Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.5 HR-2.1 BB-0 .146/.146/.241 OPS-.387
RH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.3 HR-1.5 BB-3 .199/.221/.276 OPS-.497
2013 Cliff Lee PHI Throws-L BAL-3L END-S7-
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-0 .137/.137/.168 OPS-.305
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-0 .167/.167/.333 OPS-.500
2008 Current Lee, Cliff Throws-L BAL-3R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-2.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .234/.234/.306 OPS-.540
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-0 .174/.174/.205 OPS-.379
I think any of the cards are an improvement, and all are different, since he’s a 3R currently……..


1938 Bill C. Lee CHC Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.6 HR-0.6 BB-4 .240/.269/.309 OPS-.578
RH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.6 HR-3.1 BB-6 .173/.219/.304 OPS-.522
1939 Current Lee, Bill C. Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.6 HR-2.0 BB-6 .223/.266/.328 OPS-.594
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.6 HR-2.0 BB-6 .216/.259/.320 OPS-.579
Led league with 22 wins, finished 2nd in MVP Vote as he led Cubs to the World Series……



2000 Al Leiter NYM Throws-L BAL-8L END-S7-
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-6 .000/.056/.000 OPS-.056
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.5 HR-2.4 BB-10 .187/.262/.320 OPS-.582
1998 Current Leiter, Al Throws-L BAL-4R END-S7
LH--2b- 12.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-3 .234/.256.351 OPS-.607
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-11 .110/.201/.149 OPS-.350
Check out his line vs LH…..

2010 Jon Lester BOS Throws-L BAL-2R END-S6*
LH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-11 .161/.246/.287 OPS-.533
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.3 HR-0.6 BB-12 .132/.229/.177 OPS-.406
2016 Jon Lester CHC Throws-L BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 5.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.8 BB-2 .143/.159/.246 OPS-.405
RH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-6 .148/.195/.240 OPS-.436
2008 Current Lester, Jon Throws-L BAL-4L END-S6*
LH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-2 .136/.152/.189 OPS-.341
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-0.2 HR-2.1 BB-9 .232/.296/.349 OPS-.645
2010 finished 4th in Cy Young vote, 2016 Cubs card finished 2nd in Cy Young vote.


1949 Eddie Lopat NYY Throws-L BAL-8R END-S7/R3-
LH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.3 HR-4.8 BB-7 .342/.384/.527 OPS-.911
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.3 HR-2.2 BB-2 .124/.140/.208 OPS-.349
1948 Eddie Lopat NYY Throws-L BAL-4L END-S8/R4-
LH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.3 HR-1.1 BB-4 .187/.217/.254 OPS-.471
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.8 HR-3.5 BB-0 .307/.307/.453 OPS-.761
1953 Eddie Lopat NYY Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8
LH—2b-1.2 3b-1.5 HR-1 BB-0 .175/.182/.242 OPS.424
RH--2b-2.9 3b-0.5 HR-2.9 BB-0 .233/.233/.350 OPS.583
1954 Current Lopat, Ed Throws-L BAL-4R END-S8/R3
LH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.8 HR-5.2 BB-0 .295/.295/.506 OPS-.801
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.6 HR-2.2 BB-0 .249/.249/.340 OPS-.589
1950 Current Lopat, Ed Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8*
LH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.5 BB-2 .215/.230/.282 OPS-.512
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-2.7 HR-3.5 BB-0 .244/.244/.415 OPS-.659
Junkballer won a lot of games for Yankees 40s/50s dynasty, Led League in ERA in 1953.
1953 would be his best.


1930 Ted Lyons CWS Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 5.6 3b-1.8 HR-1.7 BB-0 .233/.233/.364 OPS-.590
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-2.7 HR-0.0 BB-1 .165/.173/.261 OPS-.434
1927 Current Lyons, Ted Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.8 HR-0.8 BB-2 .147/.163/.222 OPS-.385
RH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-1 .164/.171/.207 OPS-.378
Not an improvement, though is a 3R, which is different.


1969 Jim Maloney CIN Throws-R BAL-2L END-S7/R4x
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-14 .097/214/.152 OPS-.366
RH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.3 HR-1.3 BB-17 .125/.263/.219 OPS-.482
1965 Jim Maloney CIN Throws-R BAL-3R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.9 HR-1.5 BB-17 .137/.273/.242 OPS-.514
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-14 .085/.204/.104 OPS-.308
1967 Current Maloney, Jim Throws-R BAL-3R END-S7
LH--2b- 4.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.0 BB-12 .221/.307/.320 OPS-.627
RH--2b- 4.4 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-11 .159/.244/.212 OPS-.456
1963 Current Maloney, Jim Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.3 HR-2.2 BB-12 .113/.212/.233 OPS-.445
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.3 HR-1.9 BB-13 .134/.238/.254 OPS-.492
Hard-throwing Reds pitcher, ’65 or ’69 are both better than current cards.






1908 Christy Mathewson NYG Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.3 BB-0 .125/.125/.148 OPS-.274
RH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.5 HR-0.2 BB-0 .123/.123/.144 OPS-.267
1901 Christy Mathewson NYG Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-7 .150/.205/.176 OPS-.381
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-7 .146/.201/.176 OPS-.377
1909 Current Mathewson, Christy Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-0 .113/.113/.119 OPS-.232
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-0 .111/.111/.116 OPS-.227
1905 Current Mathewson, Christy Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-2 .121/.137.129 OPS-.266
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-2 .118/.135/.127 OPS-.262
1911 Current Mathewson, Christy Throws-R BAL-2L END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 5.4 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-0 .156/.156/.218 OPS-.374
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-0 .217/.217/.264 OPS-.481
Not really different…….


1953 Mickey McDermott BOS Throws-L BAL-4L END-S8/R3-
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-9 .111/.185/.147 OPS-.333
RH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.8 HR-0.7 BB-19 .135/.288/.239 OPS-.526
1956 Current McDermott, Mickey Throws-L BAL-2L END-S5/R4
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.0 HR-3.9 BB-10 .181/.256/.308 OPS-.564
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-2.0 HR-3.9 BB-16 .203/.321/.373 OPS-.694
Hard-throwing but wild Lefty, 1953 would be a big improvement.


1956 Vinegar Bend Mizell STL Throws-L BAL-1L END-S8
LH--2b- 6.2 3b-0.6 HR-2.7 BB-3 .111/.136/.259 OPS-.395
RH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.2 HR-1.5 BB-17 .102/.243/.216 OPS-.460
1960 Current Mizell, Vinegar Bend Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-1.3 HR-1.7 BB-7 .181/.234/.277 OPS-.511
RH--2b- 8.7 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-7 .248/.296/.366 OPS-.662
A good mid-50s pitcher, 1956 is much better for him.


1979 Jack Morris DET Throws-R BAL-5R END-S7
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.0 HR-4.0 BB-7 .220/.271/.379 OPS-.650
RH--2b- 1.4 3b-0.0 HR-1.4 BB-6 .119/.168/.173 OPS-.341
1981 Jack Morris DET Throws-R BAL-4R END-S9
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-2.2 HR-1.8 BB-11 .200/.281/.342 OPS-.624
RH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.0 HR-2.0 BB-10 .077/.162/.167 OPS-.329
1987 Jack Morris DET Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.0 HR-6.2 BB-5 .153/.193/.368 OPS-.561
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-1.4 HR-1.1 BB-5 .150/.190/.217 OPS-.407
1991 Jack Morris MIN Throws-R BAL-5R END-S7* ADDED TO SET
LH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.0 HR-1.4 BB-14 .243/.341/.318 OPS-.659
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-5 .125/.165/.150 OPS-.315
1984 Current Morris, Jack Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.2 HR-2.5 BB-7 .208/.259/.331 OPS-.590
RH--2b- 2.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-11 .216/.296/.262 OPS-.558
1986 Current Morris, Jack Throws-R BAL-5L END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.9 3b-0.8 HR-1.9 BB-4 .142/.174/.229 OPS-.403
RH--2b- 4.6 3b-1.2 HR-8.2 BB-8 .187/.247/.502 OPS-.749
Here are some other options for Morris………most are stronger against RH, which would be different.


1999 Jamie Moyer SEA Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.6 HR-3.3 BB-2 .179/.194/.289 OPS-.483
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.9 BB-0 .253/.253/.355 OPS-.608
2001 Current Moyer, Jamie Throws-L BAL-3R END-S6*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-6.0 BB-1 .243/.250/.440 OPS-.690
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.5 HR-2.5 BB-2 .201/.216/.319 OPS-.535
Different, better vs LH


1992 Mike Mussina BAL Throws-R BAL-4L END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-4 .153/.185/.166 OPS-.351
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.8 HR-4.2 BB-0 .232/.232/.407 OPS-.639
1999 Mike Mussina BAL Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 10.1 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-6 .216/.260/.327 OPS-.587
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-2.5 HR-1.3 BB-2 .221/.235/.355 OPS-.590
2000 Mike Mussina BAL Throws-R BAL-6L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.3 HR-1.1 BB-1 .122/.131/.171 OPS-.301
RH--2b- 8.3 3b-0.0 HR-4.2 BB-0 .235/.235/.428 OPS-.663
1995 Current Mussina, Mike Throws-R BAL-5L END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.8 HR-1.1 BB-3 .092/.118/.189 OPS-.307
RH--2b- 9.7 3b-0.3 HR-5.0 BB-0 .192/.192/.426 OPS-.618
2001 Current Mussina, Mike Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 6.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-0 .177/.177/.283 OPS-.460
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-3 .177/.200/.245 OPS-.445
Some reverse righty cards, any jump out as better?


1950 Don Newcombe BKN Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.4 HR-2.1 BB-3 .205/.227/.312 OPS-.539
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.0 HR-2.4 BB-3 .181/.204/.290 OPS-.493
1956 Current Newcombe, Don Throws-R BAL-1R END-S8*/R4
LH--2b- 7.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.7 BB-1 .163/.171/.311 OPS-.482
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.0 HR-5.1 BB-0 .130/.130/.294 OPS-.424
1951 Current Newcombe, Don Throws-R BAL-2R END- S9*
LH--2b- 7.7 3b-0.3 HR-1.3 BB-7 .211/.262/.331 OPS-.593
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-7 .156/.211//.238 OPS-.449
Wish he had a better card, not much different here…..


1946 Bobo Newsom WAS Throws-R BAL-E END-S7/R1-
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.6 HR-0.3 BB-9 .198/.265/.246 OPS-.512
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-0.6 HR-0.3 BB-9 .194/.261/.240 OPS-.501
1940 Current Newsom, Bobo Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.4 3b-0.4 HR-2.0 BB-9 .160/.230/.242 OPS-.472
RH--2b- 1.4 3b-0.4 HR-2.0 BB-9 .157/.227/.240 OPS-.467
Not better, would be a WAS card…..


1898 Kid Nichols BSB Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*/R3 ADDED TO SET
LH--2b- 3.7 3b-1.0 HR-0.6 BB-3 .122/.146/.193 OPS-.340
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-1.0 HR-0.4 BB-3 .104/.129/.157 OPS-.286
1904 Current Nichols, Kid Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-1 .167/.175/.206 OPS-.381
RH--2b- 1.6 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-1 .163/.170/.200 OPS-.370
Led League with a 31-12 record and 1.03 WHIP, Hall of Famer, would be an improvement.


1972 Blue Moon Odom OAK Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-17 .236/.356/.271 OPS-.627
RH--2b- 4.7 3b-0.2 HR-1.1 BB-14 .136/.248/.224 OPS-.472
1970 Current Odom, Blue Moon Throws-R BAL-E END-S5
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-26 .138/.346/.250 OPS-.596
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.4 HR-2.2 BB-21 .177/.337/.268 OPS-.605
1973 Current Odom, Blue Moon Throws-R BAL-E END-S5/R4
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-3.7 BB-8 .237/.294/.387 OPS-.681
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-1.8 HR-1.7 BB-15 .238/.344/.353 OPS-.697
1968 Current Odom, Blue Moon Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-1.8 HR-1.5 BB-11 .153/.239/.241 OPS-.480
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-1.2 HR-0.0 BB-12 .174/.266/.208 OPS-.474
No improvement

1972 Claude Osteen LA Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.4 HR-2.4 BB-0 .148/.148/.251 OPS-.399
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-1.2 HR-1.1 BB-8 .185/.245/.275 OPS-.520
1969 Claude Osteen LA Throws-L BAL-3L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.3 BB-1 .148/.156/.213 OPS-.369
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.3 HR-0.9 BB-2 .210/.225/.289 OPS-.514
1968 Current Osteen, Claude Throws-L BAL-3L END-S7*
LH--2b- 5.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-3 .187/.209/.266 OPS-.475
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-1 .270/.276/.359 OPS-.635
1965 Current Osteen, Claude Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.3 HR-2.0 BB-2 .192/.207.293 OPS-.500
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.5 HR-1.3 BB-5 .188/.225/.267 OPS-.492
1969 looks like an improvement……….

2002 Roy Oswalt HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-1.0 HR-2.4 BB-4 .174/.205/.295 OPS-.499
RH--2b- 4.7 3b-1.6 HR-0.0 BB-5 .178/.216/.254 OPS-.471
2004 Roy Oswalt HOU Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7-
LH--2b- 7.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-5 .170/.208/.238 OPS-.446
RH--2b- 7.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-3 .212/.225/.317 OPS-.541
2005 Roy Oswalt HOU Throws-R BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 5.2 3b-2.3 HR-1.3 BB-0 .261/.261/.387 OPS-.648
RH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-5 .195/.232/.272 OPS-.505
2006 Roy Oswalt HOU Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7-
LH--2b- 7.6 3b-0.3 HR-0.2 BB-0 .218/.218/.298 OPS-.516
RH--2b- 8.8 3b-0.3 HR-3.7 BB-0 .231/.231/.419 OPS-.650
2001 Current Oswalt, Roy Throws-R BAL-2L END-S6/R3
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.9 HR-0.2 BB-0 .150/.150/.186 OPS-.336
RH--2b- 7.7 3b-0.0 HR-3.0 BB-0 .148/.148/.303 OPS-.451
I think 2002 would be good, giving Oswalt a * card to go along with current one. The 2004 reverse balanced card looks ok too. 2002 finished 4th in Cy Young vote. Led League with 20 wins in 2004, 3rd in Cy Young vote. Led League in ERA in 2006, 4th in Cy Young vote.


1964 Jim O'Toole CIN Throws-L BAL-5R END-S8-
LH--2b- 7.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .274/.287/.347 OPS-.634
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-4 .144/.176/.186 OPS-.362
1961 Current O'Toole, Jim Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-4.5 HR-0.8 BB-9 .145/.216/.287 OPS-.503
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-10 .174/.250/.225 OPS-.475
Different with hard reverse balance, but not better


1951 Mel Parnell BOS Throws-L BAL-3L END-S8/R3-
LH--2b- 0.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-8 .165/.227/.169 OPS-.396
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.6 HR-1.2 BB-7 .222/.272/.317 OPS-.589
1953 Mel Parnell BOS Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8/R3-
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.2 BB-16 .095/.229/.145 OPS-.373
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.5 HR-1.0 BB-11 .160/.245/.216 OPS-.462
1949 Current Parnell, Mel Throws-L BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-10 .164/.242/.185 OPS-.427
RH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-10 .162/.239/.182 OPS-.421
1950 Current Parnell, Mel Throws-L BAL-4L END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 6.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-4 .118/.150/.219 OPS-.369
RH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.6 HR-1.5 BB-10 .234/.305/.339 OPS-.644
Either card is better than his 1950 card, 1953 may be best of all. 10 year Red Sox starter


1906 Casey Patten WAS Throws-L BAL-E END-S8/R5-
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.2 BB-7 .183/.236/.222 OPS-.457
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.2 BB-7 .180/.233/.219 OPS-.452
1903 Current Patten, Casey Throws-L BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 5.7 3b-2.4 HR-1.5 BB7 .238/.288/.386 OPS-.674
RH--2b- 5.5 3b-2.2 HR-1.3 BB-7 .230/.280/.365 OPS-.645
Good improvement for 1900s WAS starter


2007 Brad Penny LA Throws-R BAL-4L END-S6*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-10 .131/.212/.180 OPS-.391
RH--2b- 6.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-9 .254/.316/.319 OPS-.635
2003 Current Penny, Brad Throws-R BAL-1L END-S6*
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-2.8 HR-1.5 BB-7 .245/.294.371 OPS-.665
RH--2b- 10.2 3b-0.3 HR-4.6 BB-3 .240/.261/.472 OPS-.733
This card is much better than the current one, nice reveres balance


1969 Fritz Peterson NYY Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH—2b-0.3 3b-1.3 HR-0.4 BB-0 .115/.115/.152 OPS-.268
RH—2b-5.4 3b-0.8 HR-0.9 BB-0 .169/.169/.258 OPS-.428
1972 Current Peterson, Fritz NYY Throws-L BAL-5L END-S7*
LH—2b-0 3b-0.8 HR-3.5 BB-0 .165/.165/.277 OPS-.442
RH--2b-6.2 3b-1.5 HR-1.4 BB-0 .298/.298/.422 OPS-.720
Led League with 0.99 WHIP, would be an improvement


2001 Andy Pettitte NYY Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.3 BB-0 .223/.223/.300 OPS-.523
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-1.8 HR-0.6 BB-2 .274/.287/.360 OPS-.647
2002 Andy Pettitte NYY Throws-L BAL-1L END-S6x
LH--2b- 3.2 3b-1.6 HR-0.0 BB-2 .223/.237/.283 OPS-.521
RH--2b- 6.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-4 .257/.284/.319 OPS-.603
2005 Andy Pettitte HOU Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .137/.137/.190 OPS-.327
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.8 HR-1.9 BB-2 .179.194/.285 OPS-.479
2008 Andy Pettitte NYY Throws-L BAL-8L END-S6*
LH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-0 .113/.113/.163 OPS-.277
RH--2b- 4.6 3b-1.0 HR-2.8 BB-6 .325/.362/.472 OPS-.834
1997 Current Pettitte, Andy Throws-L BAL-5R END-S7*
LH--2b- 6.2 3b-1.6 HR-0.0 BB-0 .335/.335/.422 OPS-.757
RH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-7 .169/.223/.213 OPS-.436
2001 & 2002 are better vs LH, 2005 Astros card is his best overall, 2008 would be fun in Yankee Stadium with its 8L rating.

1928 George Pipgras NYY Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH—2b-3.25 3b-1 HR- BB-8 .214/.273/.267 OPS-.540
RH—2b-3.25 3b-1 HR-0 BB-8 .211/.270/.264 OPS-.534
1930 George Pipgras NYY Throws-R BAL-3R END-S6/R4-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.8 HR-0.8 BB-8 .217/.275/.314 OPS-.589
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-6 .153/.200/.215 OPS-.415
1927 Current Pipgras, George Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R4
LH--2b- 4.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-21 .170/.331/.222 OPS-.553
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-2.4 HR-0.0 BB-9 .199/.266/.247 OPS-.513
Murderer’s Row SP for the Yankees, led League with 24 wins in 1928, I like the 1930 card with 3R balance


1906 Jack Powell SLB Throws-R BAL-E END-S9/R5-
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.4 HR-0.3 BB-4 .149/.181/.176 OPS-.357
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.3 HR-0.2 BB-4 .145/.176/.168 OPS-.345
1903 Current Powell, Jack Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-1.6 HR-1.5 BB-3 .206/.228/.317 OPS-.545
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-1.6 HR-1.5 BB-3 .203/.225/.314 OPS-.539
Improvement, gives SLB db a good SP


2010 David Price TB Throws-L BAL-1L END-S6*
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-2.0 HR-0.0 BB-8 .148/.211/.228 OPS-.439
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.8 HR-2.2 BB-12 .186/.277/.321 OPS-.598
2012 Current Price, David Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.9 BB-2 .140/.156/.166 OPS-.322
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-8 .172/.233/.220 OPS-.453
Nope……
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1951 Ken Raffensberger CIN Throws-L BAL-7L END-S7*/R4
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .047/.047/.080 OPS-.127
RH--2b- 7.2 3b-0.0 HR-6.0 BB-0 .185/.185/.418 OPS-.603
1948 Current Raffensberger, Ken Throws-L BAL-1L END-S7/R3
LH--2b- 7.1 3b-2.8 HR-0.4 BB-0 .168/.168/.295 OPS-.463
RH--2b- 1.9 3b-1.0 HR-3.2 BB-0 .191/.191/.316 OPS-.507
Led League in WHIP, That’d be a nice 7L card for Lefty parks


1949 Vic Raschi NYY Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9-
LH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.5 HR-1.4 BB-16 .170/.293/.268 OPS-.562
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.1 BB-8 .184/.244/.252 OPS-.495
1952 Vic Raschi NYY Throws-R BAL-E END-S7-
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-1.5 BB-10 .134/.214/.211 OPS-.425
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-1.5 BB-10 .131/.212/.209 OPS-.420
1950 Current Raschi, Vic Throws-R BAL-1R END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-1.2 HR-2.3 BB-19 .171/.317/.321 OPS-.638
RH--2b- 2.7 3b-1.5 HR-1.3 BB-4 .190/.220/.282 OPS-.502
1948 Current Raschi, Vic Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-11 .214/.294/.289 OPS-.583
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-2.0 HR-2.8 BB-2 .194/.209/.331 OPS-.540
Tough righty who gave his right arm in the Yankee cause, 6 time World Champ, needs to have that 1952 card added for Yankees.

1941 Elmer Riddle CIN Throws-R BAL-2R END-S9/R5 x
LH--2b- 5.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-4 .180/.210/.243 OPS-.453
RH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.8 HR-1.1 BB-5 .116/.157/.168 OPS-.325
Has an RP card, but here’s an SP card, pretty good addition, led League with 2.24 ERA.


1940 Johnny Rigney CWS Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5-
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-2.6 BB-6 .149/.196/.256 OPS-.452
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-2.4 BB-6 .145/.192/.246 OPS-.438
1941 Current Rigney, Johnny Throws-R BAL-4R END-S9*
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-2.0 HR-4.2 BB-11 .213/.294/.397 OPS-.691
RH--2b- 2.7 3b-0.5 HR-0.2 BB-6 .138/.186/.180 OPS-.366
More balanced Rigney……….


1921 Jimmy Ring PHI Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-2.0 HR-0.5 BB-11 .196/.278/.302 OPS-.580
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-2.0 HR-0.5 BB-11 .196/.278/.302 OPS-.580
1919 Current Ring, Jimmy Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-7 .144/.200/.177 OPS-.377
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-7 .139/.195/.168 OPS-.363
1923 Current Ring, Jimmy Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.4 HR-1.0 BB-10 .229/.300/.327 OPS-.627
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.4 HR-1.0 BB-10 .226/.298/.323 OPS-.621
No improvement.


1953 Robin Roberts PHI Throws-R BAL-5R END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 9.7 3b-0.8 HR-3.1 BB-0 .218/.218/.410 OPS-.627
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.5 HR-1.0 BB-0 .107/.107/.183 OPS-.291
1950 Current Roberts, Robin Throws-R BAL-2L END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.8 HR-2.0 BB-1 .205/.213/.297 OPS-.510
RH--2b- 4.3 3b-1.8 HR-3.8 BB-3 .211/.233/.393 OPS-.626
1952 Current Roberts, Robin Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-1.8 BB-0 .181/.181/.254 OPS-.435
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-1.8 BB-0 .179/.179/.251 OPS-.430
Led League in Wins (23) and K (198), hard to find a good Roberts card, guy won 211 games during the 1950s.
Maybe this 5R card might get some use.


1995 Kenny Rogers TEX Throws-L BAL-7L END-S7-
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-14 .000/.130/.000 OPS-.130
RH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-8 .205/.264/.372 OPS-.636
Doesn’t have an SP card, this one would get some use with its 7L Balance.


1926 Charlie Root CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.6 HR-1.1 BB-2 .188/.203/.252 OPS-.455
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.6 HR-1.1 BB-3 .187/.210/.251 OPS-.461
1928 Charlie Root CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-1.0 HR-2.2 BB-7 .156/.211/.277 OPS-.488
RH--2b- 3.6 3b-1.0 HR-2.2 BB-7 .154/.209/.275 OPS-.484
1933 Charlie Root CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH-2b- 2.3 3b-0.6 HR-2.3 BB-6 .195/.240/.295 OPS-.535
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.5 HR-2.2 BB-6 .190/.235/.288 OPS-.522
1929 Current Root, Charlie Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-0.6 BB-6 .202/.247/.258 OPS-.505
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-6 .198/.243/.249 OPS-.492
16 year Cubs starter, Ruth allegedly called his shot off Root, 1926 would be a good add.


2002 Kirk Rueter SF Throws-L BAL-2L END-S6*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.9 BB-5 .214/.250/.240 OPS-.490
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.0 HR-4.7 BB-2 .243/.257/.424 OPS-.681
1994 Current Rueter, Kirk Throws-L BAL-8L END-S5
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-7 .129/.185/.153 OPS-.338
RH--2b- 7.8 3b-0.0 HR-4.4 BB-3 .327/.346/.527 OPS-.873
A little more balanced Rueter with the *


1952 Bob Rush CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R4-
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-1.1 BB-7 .149/.204/.207 OPS-.411
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.3 HR-1.1 BB-7 .140/.195/.192 OPS-.387
1956 Bob Rush CHC Throws-R BAL-2R END-S8-
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-3.0 HR-4.8 BB-4 .140/.172/.337 OPS-.509
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.4 BB-2 .093/.110/.190 OPS-.300
1951 Current Rush, Bob Throws-R BAL-2R END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 6.2 3b-2.6 HR-0.0 BB-6 .221/.264/.332 OPS-.596
RH--2b- 2.2 3b-2.5 HR-3.1 BB-6 .144/.191/.305 OPS-.496
Good Cubs starter, they could use better SP in CHC post, 1952 looks like a good add.


1977 Nolan Ryan CAL Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-30 .021/.293/.021 OPS-.313
RH--2b- 0.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-22 .074/.263/.078 OPS-.341
1991 Current Ryan, Nolan Throws-R BAL-E END-S6
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.4 HR-2.4 BB-10 .028/.118/.108 OPS-.226
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-20 .005/.189/.016 OPS-.205
1986 Current Ryan, Nolan Throws-R BAL-2L END-S6*
LH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.9 BB-18 .054/.212/.134 OPS-.346
RH--2b- 4.5 3b-0.8 HR-4.8 BB-12 .104/.204/.316 OPS-.520
1987 Current Ryan, Nolan Throws-R BAL-E END-S6*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.6 HR-1.1 BB-14 .093/.210/.140 OPS-.350
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.0 HR-2.1 BB-12 .075/.178/.182 OPS-.360
1981 Current Ryan, Nolan Throws-R BAL-3L END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-21 .009.202/.009 OPS-.211
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .151/.245/.151 OPS-.396
1973 Current Ryan, Nolan Throws-R BAL-1L END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-16 .063/.201/.120 OPS-.321
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-16 .090/.225/.196 OPS-.421
3rd in Cy Young vote, led League in K (341), his best Angels card, no homers on card.


1948 Johnny Sain BSB Throws-R BAL-2R END-S9*/R4
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-2.8 HR-0.4 BB-3 .202/.224.292 OPS-.516
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-4 .139/.171/.204 OPS-.376
1947 Current Sain, Johnny Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.6 HR-2.0 BB-5 .210/.246/.309 OPS-.555
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.6 HR-2.0 BB-5 .207/.244/.306 OPS-.550
1946 Current Sain, Johnny Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH-2b- 1.2 3b-0.3 HR-0.4 BB-7 .160/.214/.190 OPS-.404
RH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.4 HR-0.3 BB-7 .154/.209/.182 OPS-.391
Led League with 24 wins, this was the “Spahn and Sain and pray for rain” season, not quite as good as 1946 though


2006 Anibal Sanchez FLA Throws-R BAL-1R END-S6-
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-11 .113/.204/.184 OPS-.387
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.5 HR-1.0 BB-14 .081/.200/.143 OPS-.344
2013 Current Sanchez, Anibal Throws-R BAL-3R END-S6
LH--2b-2.0 3b-2.8 HR-0.2 BB-8 .183/.244/.265 OPS-.509
RH-- 2b- 4.2 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-6 .119/.168/.176 OPS-.344
Much more balanced, good card and nice add for FLA exp as they set up a nice no* rotation


2014 Max Scherzer DET Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7-
LH--2b- 7.3 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-7 .176/.229/.331 OPS-.560
RH--2b- 6.9 3b-0.8 HR-0.4 BB-6 .175/.221/.269 OPS-.489
2018 Max Scherzer WAS Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 5.0 3b-0.6 HR-2.8 BB-4 .105/.138/.245 OPS-.383
RH--2b- 3.9 3b-0.6 HR-2.6 BB-2 .075/.093/.197 OPS-.290
2013 Current Scherzer, Max Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH--2b- 7.6 3b-1.0 HR-1.7 BB-7 .127/.183/.272 OPS-.455
RH--2b- 0.4 3b-0.5 HR-1.7 BB-5 .050/.094/.113 OPS-.207
2017 Current Scherzer, Max Throws-R BAL-8R END-S7*
LH--2b- 6.1 3b-0.5 HR-5.7 BB-9 .124/.197/.368 OPS-.565
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-3 .002/.030/.008 OPS-.038
2014 Led Al in Wins, 5th in Cy Young vote, 2018 Led League in Wins, K, WHIP, and 2nd in Cy Young vote.
2018 would give him a more balanced card which would be a very good add…….

1997 Curt Schilling PHI Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.9 3b-1.9 HR-4.4 BB-5 .144/.184/.346 OPS-.530
RH--2b- 7.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.3 BB-2 .123/.139/.227 OPS-.366
2004 Curt Schilling BOS Throws-R BAL-3L END-S7-
LH--2b- 8.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-0 .155/.155/.236 OPS-.391
RH--2b- 7.4 3b-0.0 HR-6.4 BB-0 .165/.165/.411 OPS-.576
2002 Current Schilling, Curt Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-1.5 HR-3.5 BB-0 .156/.156/.325 OPS-.481
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.8 HR-3.3 BB-0 .112/.112/.217 OPS-.329
1992 Current Schilling, Curt Throws-R BAL-1L END-S8/R3
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-1.1 BB-6 .069/.120/.131 OPS-.251
RH--2b- 4.4 3b-0.2 HR-0.4 BB-4 .118/.151/.175 OPS-.326
1997 led League in K, 4th in Cy Young Vote, 2004 led League with 21 wins, 2nd in Cy Young vote, Bloody Sock season.
Would be cool to have a Red Sox card………


2004 Jason Schmidt SF Throws-R BAL-3L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-2.0 HR-3.6 BB-11 .079 .173 .250 OPS-.423
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-3.5 BB-8 .113 .179 .266 OPS-.445
2003 Current Schmidt, Jason Throws-R BAL-1L END-S(7)
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.9 BB-5 .084 .126 .142 OPS-.268
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-2.0 HR-1.3 BB-1 .109 .117 .232 OPS-.349
4th in Cy young vote, would be different to give him the *


1933 Hal Schumacher NYG Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.9 BB-10 .108/.191/.153 OPS-.343
RH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.9 BB-10 .106/.188/.147 OPS-.336
1940 Current Schumacher, Hal Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.6 HR-1.8 BB-12 .191/.281/.289 OPS-.570
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.6 HR-1.8 BB-12 .189/.279/.283 OPS-.562
1934 Current Schumacher, Hal Throws-R BAL-1R END-S8*
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.6 BB-12 .221/.307/.263 OPS-.570
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.5 BB-5 .194/.231/.262 OPS-.493
Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9 and helped lead Giants to World Series title.
This is a really GOOD card, especially for the 1930s, and quite an improvement for Schumacher. Good Add.


1917 Ferdie Schupp NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*/R5
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.8 BB-6 .117/.166/.167 OPS-.332
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.8 BB-6 .114/.163/.164 OPS-.327
1920 Ferdie Schupp STL Throws-L BAL-6L END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-18 .063/.219/.072 OPS-.291
RH--2b- 3.7 3b-1.8 HR-0.6 BB-18 .189/.324/.288 OPS-.612
1916 Current Schupp, Ferdie Throws-L BAL-E END-S8/R5
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-7 .049/.110/.049 OPS-.159
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-7 .049/.110/.049 OPS-.159
Led league with 17 wins in 1917, would give a Schupp with *.
Check out the 1920 6L card


1977 Tom Seaver CIN Throws-R BAL-2R END-S9*
LH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.9 HR-2.4 BB-8 .167/.229/.288 OPS-.517
RH--2b- 2.8 3b-1.2 HR-1.3 BB-3 .129/.153/.215 OPS-.369
1969 Current Seaver, Tom Throws-R BAL-1L END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-7 .138/.194/.232 OPS-.426
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-4.4 BB-4 .139/.171/.296 OPS-.467
1975 Current Seaver, Tom Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.4 3b- 0.6 HR-0.2 BB-8 .153/.215/.203 OPS-.418
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-6 .043/.096/.073 OPS-.169
1971 Current Seaver, Tom Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.7 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-2 .165/.181/.198 OPS-.379
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.0 HR-3.7 BB-6 .109/.158/.238 OPS-.396
1973 Current Seaver, Tom Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-4 .082/.116/.238 OPS-.354
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.3 HR-0.2 BB-2 .099/.115/.126 OPS-.241
Here’s Tom Terrfic’s Reds card, not an improvement, but different team………….


2008 Ben Sheets MIL Throws-R BAL-1R END-S6*
LH--2b- 9.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.8 BB-3 .195/.217/.336 OPS-.553
RH--2b- 6.4 3b-0.5 HR-2.6 BB-4 .156/.187/.302 OPS-.489
2004 Current Sheets, Ben Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.8 HR-3.7 BB-0 .141/.141/.302 OPS-.443
RH--2b- 10.7 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-0 .122/.122/.263 OPS-.385
Not a real improvement


1954 Curt Simmons PHI Throws-L BAL-5L END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-5 .080/.123/.088 OPS-.211
RH--2b- 5.6 3b-1.3 HR-1.3 BB-11 .179/.263/.303 OPS-.566
1963 Curt Simmons STL Throws-L BAL-5L END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-1.5 HR-0.6 BB-4 .086/.119/.132 OPS-.251
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.8 HR-1.0 BB-3 .235/.256/.327 OPS-.583
1950 Current Simmons, Curt Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-13 .124/.230/.151 OPS-.381
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.6 HR-3.7 BB-9 .163/.232/.312 OPS-.544
1957 Current Simmons, Curt Throws-L BAL-1L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-2.3 HR-1.5 BB-0 .166/.166/.281 OPS-.447
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-2.8 HR-0.0 BB-3 .211/.233/.305 OPS-.538
Either card would be an improvement for a 21 year starter, both 5L, both similar, pick between Phillies and Cardinals.


1976 Jim Slaton MIL Throws-R BAL-6R END-S8*
LH--2b- 5.9 3b-1.8 HR-1.1 BB-6 .284/.324/.408 OPS-.732
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.5 BB-6 .122/.171/.151 OPS-.322
1974 Current Slaton, Jim Throws-R BAL-5R END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.6 3b-1.6 HR-5.5 BB-11 .301/.372/.510 OPS-.882
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-11 .196/.278/.271 OPS-.549
Longtime Brewer hurler deserves a better card. 1976 is an improvement.


1985 Bryn Smith MON Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7-
LH--2b- 5.1 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .222/.222/.294 OPS-.516
RH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.4 HR-3.5 BB-3 .188/.211/.323 OPS-.534
1984 Current Smith, Bryn Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7
LH--2b- 5.5 3b-0.3 HR-3.3 BB-7 .226/.276/.383 OPS-.659
RH--2b- 6.2 3b-0.8 HR-2.8 BB-3 .198/.220/.351 OPS-.571
SP for Expos for 9 seasons in 1980s, 1985 is better than our current card


1993 John Smoltz ATL Throws-R BAL-3R END-S7*
LH--2b- 7.6 3b-1.4 HR-2.1 BB-10 .186/.262/.357 OPS-.618
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.1 BB-11 .093/.185/.220 OPS-.405
1997 John Smoltz ATL Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-1.3 BB-4 .184/.214/.251 OPS-.466
RH--2b- 6.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-0 .184/.184/.317 OPS-.500
1996 Current Smoltz, John Throws-R BAL-1L END-8*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-8 .127/.192/.165 OPS-.357
RH--2b- 6.9 3b-0.0 HR-2.6 BB-0 .131/.131/.267 OPS-.398
Want another Smoltz?


1956 Warren Spahn BSB Throws-L BAL-1R END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-0 .171/.171/.248 OPS-.419
RH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.3 BB-0 .141/.141/.229 OPS-.369
1947 Current Spahn, Warren Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.3 HR-0.9 BB-5 .153/.192/.193 OPS-.385
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0.9 BB-5 .146/.186/.183 OPS-.369
1953 Current Spahn, Warren Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*/R4
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.3 HR-0.3 BB-4 .128/.160/.141 OPS-.301
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.3 HR-0.3 BB-4 .125/.158/.138 OPS-.296
1957 Current Spahn, Warren Throws-L BAL-1L END-S9*
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-9 .147/.219/.248 OPS-.467
RH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.0 HR-2.4 BB-5 .189/.226/.270 OPS-.496
Would be his 3rd best card, finished 3rd in Cy Young vote………….


1906 Tully Sparks PHI Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R5 ADDED TO SET
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-1.0 HR-0.2 BB-2 .137/.153/.182 OPS-.335
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-1.0 HR-0.2 BB-2 .137/.153/.182 OPS-.335
1904 Current Sparks, Tully Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.2 3b-1.3 HR-0.0 BB-3 .242/.263/.296 OPS-.559
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-1.3 HR-0.0 BB-3 .237/.258/.290 OPS-.548
Improvement for Phillies, much better than current representation.


1990 Dave Stieb TOR Throws-R BAL-3R END-S6-
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.9 BB-10 .191/.266/.272 OPS-.538
RH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-4 .116/.149/.160 OPS-.309
1985 Current Stieb, Dave Throws-R BAL-4L END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-12 .107/.206/.145 OPS-.351
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.0 HR-3.0 BB-8 .192/.252/.315 OPS-.567
1982 Current Stieb, Dave Throws-R BAL-2L END-S8*
LH--2b- 0.6 3b-1.2 HR-0.8 BB-4 .178/.209/.229 OPS-.438
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.0 HR-4.2 BB-4 .207/.236/.345 OPS-.581
Different Stieb, he’s tougher on RH than the other Stieb cards.


1953 Chuck Stobbs WAS Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8/R3-
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-1.8 HR-1.1 BB-3 .150/.174/.234 OPS-.408
RH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-5 .225/.261/.317 OPS-.579
1955 Current Stobbs, Chuck Throws-L BAL-2L END-S5/R5
LH--2b- 9.3 3b2.2 HR-1.1 BB-3 .267/.287/.428 OPS-.715
RH--2b- 6.7 3b-3.4 HR-4.0 BB-7 .303/.349/.556 OPS-.905
Nice improvement for Stobbs……..


1991 Todd Stottlemyre TOR Throws-R BAL-E END-S6*
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.6 HR-2.8 BB-9 .185/.253/.282 OPS-.535
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.6 HR-2.3 BB-8 .173/.234/.296 OPS-.530
1999 Current Stottlemyre, Todd Throws-R BAL-5R END-S6
LH--2b- 6.3 3b-0.0 HR-4.2 BB-9 .279/.339/.470 OPS-.809
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-10 .139/.219/.245 OPS-.464
Blue Jays starter, this card is more balanced and has the *


1963 Ralph Terry NYY Throws-R BAL-3L END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-1.8 HR-3.8 BB-0 .169/.169/.336 OPS-.505
RH--2b- 4.0 3b-0.4 HR-3.7 BB-0 .260/.260/.406 OPS-.665
1960 Current Terry, Ralph Throws-R BAL-3L END-S7/R3
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-3.9 BB-0 .139/.139/.283 OPS-.422
RH--2b- 4.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.3 BB-10 .220/.292/.326 OPS-.618
1961 Current Terry, Ralph Throws-R BAL-3L END-S7/R4
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.3 BB-4 .157/.188/.252 OPS.440
RH--2b- 5.2 3b-1.8 HR-3.3 BB-1 .229/.236/.403 OPS-.639
Led League with 1.06 WHIP, gets him a *.


1972 Luis Tiant BOS Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9/R3x
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.0 HR-1.2 BB-16 .153/.279/.242 OPS-.521
RH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-7 .109/.167/.124 OPS-.290
1978 Current Tiant, Luis Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.0 HR-5.1 BB-9 .189/.256/.379 OPS-.635
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.0 HR-3.8 BB-0 .172/.172/.325 OPS-.497
1968 Current Tiant, Luis Throws-R BAL-1L END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.5 HR-0.8 BB-8 .042/.113/.096 OPS-.209
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-0.8 HR-1.9 BB-4 .065/.100/.159 OPS-.259
Led AL with a miniscule 1.91 ERA, 3R balance, and he’s a No* for those Non* Rotations.


1915 Fred Toney CIN Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5-
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-9 .108/.182/.117 OPS-.300
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-9 .108/.182/.117 OPS-.300
1921 Current Toney, Fred Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.6 HR-2.0 BB-6 .226/.269/.353 OPS-.622
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.4 HR-2.1 BB-6 .222/.265/.346 OPS-.611
Gives db Reds another good SP, this is much better than current card.

1949 Virgil Trucks DET Throws-R BAL-4R END-S9/R4-
LH--2b- 0.9 3b-1.3 HR-2.6 BB-13 .136/.240/.254 OPS-.494
RH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-9 .075/.152/.101 OPS-.253
1953 Virgil Trucks CWS Throws-R BAL-4R END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 6.4 3b-2.0 HR-2.2 BB-16 .201/.319/.386 OPS-.705
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.5 HR-1.1 BB-5 .137/.177/.210 OPS-.387
1955 Current Trucks, Virgil Throws-R BAL-1R END-S6/R5
LH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.0 HR-4.0 BB-11 .225/.304/.385 OPS-.689
RH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.8 HR-3.5 BB-3 .214/.236/.356 OPS-.592
1948 Current Trucks, Virgil Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7/R5
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-1.5 HR-2.6 BB-8 .162/.224/.280 OPS-.504
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.2 HR-1.0 BB-10 .136/.216/.176 OPS-.392
1954 Current Trucks, Virgil Throws-R BAL-5R END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.3 BB-15 .216/.325/.314 OPS-.639
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.3 HR-0.2 BB-2 .097/.113/.140 OPS-.253
1949 Led League in K, I think it is his best card option, improves him in the set.

1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*ADDED TO SET
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.2 BB-12 .146/.241/.179 OPS-.420
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.3 BB-12 .146/.241/.179 OPS-.420
1940 Current Vander Meer, Johnny Throws-L BAL-1L END-S6/R5
LH--2b- 2.6 3b-0.8 HR-1.1 BB-31 .075/.341/.171 OPS-.512
RH--2b- 3.6 3b-1.0 HR-1.6 BB-31 .104/.361/.239 OPS-.600
1943 Current Vander Meer, Johnny Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-18 .152/.293/.189 OPS-.482
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-18 .149/.291/.187 OPS-.478
Led League in K, 1942 would be his best card. Guy who pitched two No-hitters in a row should have a better card.


1964 Bob Veale PIT Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8*/R3
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-15 .086/.213/.097 OPS-.310
RH--2b- 1.6 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-14 .152/.262/.169 OPS-.430
1965 Current Veale, Bob Throws-L BAL-3L END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-10 .079/.164/.126 OPS-.290
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-15 .177/.292/.203 OPS-.495
1964 may be slightly better, led league with 250 K.


2012 Justin Verlander DET Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 6.2 3b-0.3 HR-1.3 BB-5 .104/.145/.208 OPS-.353
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-6 .135/.183/.197 OPS-.379
2018 Justin Verlander HOU Throws-R BAL-2L END-S6*
LH-- 2b- 0.3 3b-0.0 HR-4.8 BB-2 .098/.114/.236 OPS-.350
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-1.5 HR-3.3 BB-0 .156/.156/.328 OPS-.484
2019 Justin Verlander HOU Throws-R BAL-2L END-S6*
LH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.2 HR-4.2 BB-3 .046/.073/.172 OPS-.245
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-1.2 HR-6.1 BB-1 .086/.095/.298 OPS-.393
2011 Current Verlander, Justin Throws-R BAL-4L END-S7*
LH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.2 HR-1.5 BB-7 .034/.097/.085 OPS-.182
RH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-2 .121/.137/.285 OPS-.422
2012 Led League in K, 2nd in Cy Young vote, 2018 Led League with 0.90 WHIP, 2nd in Cy Young vote, 2019 led League with 21 wins, 0.80 WHIP and Won Cy Young Award.
If not for dingers, 2019 would be a tremendous add. That 2012 Tiger card is more balanced for him. Any would be a good add.


1908 Ed Walsh CWS Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5-
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-0 .129/.129/.140 OPS-.269
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-0 .126/.126/.137 OPS-.263
1910 Current Walsh, Ed Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*
LH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.4 BB-1 .089/.098/.107 OPS-.205
RH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.4 BB-1 .089/.098/.107 OPS-.205
1911 Current Walsh, Ed Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-0 .163/.163/.216 OPS-.379
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-3 .143/.167/.176 OPS-.343
Went 40-15, 269 K, 11 Shutouts, the 1908 card would nestle in between ’10 and ’11, not a bad add……



1939 Bucky Walters CIN Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.3 HR-1.1 BB-9 .111/.185/.155 OPS-.340
RH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.3 HR-1.1 BB-9 .108/.182/.153 OPS-.335
1940 Current Walters, Bucky Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.4 HR-2.0 BB-7 .125/.182/.205 OPS-.387
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.4 HR-2.0 BB-7 .123/.180/.202 OPS-.382
1941 Current Walters, Bucky Throws-R BAL-1R END-S9*
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-9 .189/.257/.242 OPS-.499
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.4 BB-3 .176/.199/.230 OPS-.429
Won the MVP Award, Unofficial Pitching Triple Crown with 27-11 record, 2.29 ERA, and 137 K.
This would be his best card and a good prewar add.


1933 Lon Warneke CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*/R2
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.4 BB-6 .173/.219.198 OPS-.417
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0.4 BB-6 .167/.213/.190 OPS-.404
1941 Current Warneke, Lon Throws-R BAL-1R END-S8*
LH--2b- 5.4 3b-0.0 HR-3.4 BB-13 .155/.256/.318 OPS-.574
RH--2b- 6.5 3b-0.8 HR-1.3 BB-5 .194/.231/.310 OPS-.541
Much better card for 15 year starter for Cubs & Cards


1904 Jake Weimer CHC Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-9 .115/.189/.136 OPS-.325
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-9 .115/.189/.136 OPS-.325
1903 Current Weimer, Jake Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.4 BB-10 .144/.224/.181 OPS-.405
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.4 BB-10 .139/.219/.177 OPS-.396
Improvement for Cubs db SP…..


1983 Bob Welch LA Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.0 HR-3.4 BB-12 .160/.254/.282 OPS-.536
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-1.1 HR-0.0 BB-7 .071/.131/.117 OPS-.249
1985 Bob Welch LA Throws-R BAL-6L END-S7-
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-1.6 HR-0.2 BB-1 .090/.099/.129 OPS-.228
RH--2b- 2.6 3b-3.0 HR-7.1 BB-4 .189/.219/.477 OPS-.696
1988 Current Welch, Bob Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.4 3b-0.8 HR-2.7 BB-11 .152/.238/.295 OPS-.533
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.2 HR-1.6 BB-6 .186/.231/.277 OPS-.508
1990 Current Welch, Bob Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 4.0 3b-1.4 HR-2.5 BB-9 .197/.264/.341 OPS-.605
RH--2b- 6.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.3 BB-6 .143/.191/.299 OPS-.490
Two interesting Dodgers cards for Welch, both might be use more than current one. One balanced 4R, the other a reverse balanced card at 6L.


1986 Mike Witt CAL Throws-R BAL-1L END-S8*
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-5 .133/.174/.233 OPS-.406
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.3 BB-6 .182/.228/.237 OPS-.465
1982 Current Witt, Mike Throws-R BAL-E END-S6/R4
LH--2b- 5.6 3b-1.8 HR-0.0 BB-0 .225/.225/.309 OPS-.534
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-9 .228/.292/.261 OPS-.553
1985 Current Witt, Mike Throws-R BAL-2R END-S7*
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.8 HR-1.0 BB-9 .260/.321/.325 OPS-.646
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.8 HR-1.9 BB-13 .183/.281/.274 OPS-.555
Witt’s best card, 3rd in Cy Young vote, good add for Angels


2003 Kerry Wood CHC Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7x
LH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.0 HR-3.1 BB-20 .037/.215/.144 OPS-.360
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-14 .044/.168/.138 OPS-.306
1998 Current Wood, Kerry Throws-R BAL-6R END-S7
LH--2b- 5.1 3b-1.3 HR-2.1 BB-27 .110/.332/.283 OPS-.615
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0.2 HR-1.2 BB-9 .018/.100/.059 OPS-.159
A balanced Kerry Wood, led league with 266 K in only 211 IP, almost 50% of card is K’s


1941 Whit Wyatt BKN Throws- R BAL-E END-S9*/R5
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-0.6 HR-0.6 BB-9 .125/.198/.181 OPS-.379
RH--2b- 4.4 3b-0.9 HR-0.6 BB-5 .131/.171/.209 OPS-.380
1940 Current Wyatt, Whit Throws-R BAL-E END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.8 HR-3.0 BB-5 .203/.240/.339 OPS-.579
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.8 HR-3.0 BB-5 .203/.240/.339 OPS-.579
Whitlow Wyatt led the League with 22 wins and a 1.05 WHIP, finished 3rd in MVP vote.
Led Dodgers to World Series. This would be a great add for prewar Dodgers.


1986 Curt Young OAK Throws-L BAL-3L END-S7/R4x
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-5 .158.197/.163 OPS-.360
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0.4 HR-3.8 BB-6 .189/.234/.357 OPS-.592
1990 Current Young, Curt Throws-L BAL-3L END-S5/R4
LH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.6 BB-4 .235/.263/.302 OPS-.565
RH--2b- 3.1 3b-0.0 HR-6.4 BB-15 .238/.344/.478 OPS-.822
1988 Current Young, Curt Throws-L BAL-2L END-S6
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.0 HR-3.5 BB-0 .207/.207/.339 OPS-.546
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.3 HR-5.0 BB-10 .249/.319/.430 OPS-.749
Improvement for Young…………


2003 Barry Zito OAK Throws-L BAL-1R END-S6*
LH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.5 HR-2.4 BB-10 .157/.235/.262 OPS-.497
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-12 .138/.234/.171 OPS-.405
2002 Current Zito, Barry Throws-L BAL-6R END-S6*
LH--2b- 0.9 3b-0.8 HR-5.0 BB-14 .243/.341/.428 OPS-.769
RH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.3 HR-2.2 BB-8 .097/.164/.171 OPS-.335
A balanced Zito, would be a good add to exp A’s.
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Great list Andy, thanks!

I'd add Fritz Peterson to it. 1969 would be his best card. The current one is not very good.
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BC15NY wrote:Great list Andy, thanks!

I'd add Fritz Peterson to it. 1969 would be his best card. The current one is not very good.


Added him and 66 Koufax, though that Koufax is not an improvement.
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Tiny Bonham 1942 - 21 game winner who led the league in winning %, CG's, SO's, WHIP and FIP. Huge improvement over his 1941 card (which is his only card in the set).

And thanks Andy for all of your hard work!
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ShakeyBoomer wrote:Tiny Bonham 1942 - 21 game winner who led the league in winning %, CG's, SO's, WHIP and FIP. Huge improvement over his 1941 card (which is his only card in the set).

And thanks Andy for all of your hard work!


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1978 Bob Knepper, Giants 17-11 2.63 1.165 Career bests in WINS & HR9. Second career bests in ERA, H9, with near career low WHIP. This would be Knepper's best Giants card.

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736507/1670/1/70

1981 Bob Knepper, Astros 9-5 2.18 1.060 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9 & HR9 in strike shortened season. This would be Knepper's best Astros card.

1981 Burt Hooton, Dodgers 11-6 2.28 1.103 Career bests in ERA, BB9 & HR9 in strike shortened season. Hooton was renowned for his signature pitch, the knucklecurve.

1976 Vida Blue, A's 18-13 2.35 1.109 While it would be tough to match the numbers from Blue's 1971 season, 1976 was Blue's second best season in a year when Charlie Finley was in the process of breaking up the A's. This card would probably be more usable than the 1971 card. Blue won 200+ games in his career and deserves a better card.

1965 Sonny Siebert, Indians 16-8 2.43 0.981. Led A.L. with 4.15 SO/BB ratio. Career bests in WHIP, BB9, SO9. 2nd career best in ERA, H9. Won 140 career games, with a .551 WIN% pitching for some bad teams. Just 1 ATG card.

1968 Bobby Bolin, Giants 10-5 1.99 0.985. Career bests in in ERA, WHIP, HR9, H9 and near career best in BB9. Bolin pitched in relative anonymity his entire career, and in typical fashion, had his best year in 1968 when Bob Gibson & Juan Marichal stole all the NL pitching headlines. Was 2nd in NL in ERA & H9, & 4th in WHIP. Bolin may be the only starting pitcher from the '50s, '60s or '70s with 170+ IP and an ERA under 2 without a card.

1988 Joe Magrane, Cardinals 5-9 2.18 1.113 Led N.L. in ERA. Career bests in ERA, WHIP & H9. Just 1 ATG card.

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37390/1690/1/90


1943 Max Lanier, Cardinals 15-7 1.90 Career best ERA & W-L%. Led NL in ERA.

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1991 Jack McDowell
1966 Mark Cuellar
1967 or 1972 Mickey Lolich
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1981 Bob Knepper HOU Throws-L BAL-4L END-S7
LH—2.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.6 BB-8 .031/.103/.069 OPS-.172
RH--1.2 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-4 .195/.225/.221 OPS-.445
1986 Current Knepper, Bob HOU Throws-L BAL-1R END-S7*
LH—2b-6.25 3b-2.2 HR-4.9 BB-0 .189/.189/.422 OPS-.611
RH—2b-4.9 3b-1 HR-2.4 BB-2 .191/.206/.322 OPS-.528

1981 Burt Hooton LA Throws-R BAL-1R END-S6
LH—2b-5.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .167/.182/.216 OPS-.398
RH—2b-0.0 3b-1.1 HR-0.0 BB-6 .150/.197/.171 OPS-.368
1977 Current Hooton, Burt LA Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH—2b-4.5 3b-0.3 HR-3 BB-6 .200/.244/.338 OPS-.582
RH—2b-2.4 3b-0.2 HR-0 BB-5 .141/.181/.168 OPS-.349

1976 Vida Blue OAK Throws-L BAL-2L END-S8*
LH—2b- 2.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .153/.153/.174 OPS-.326
RH—2b-2.3 3b-0.8 HR-0.2 BB-4 .179/.210/.221 OPS-.430
1971 Current Blue, Vida OAK Throws-L BAL-7R END-S9*
LH—2b-3.1 3b-0.9 HR-3.9 BB-8 .237/.294/.400 OPS-.694
RH—2b-1 3b-0 HR-1 BB-7 .081/.140/.120 OPS-.260
1973 Current Blue, Vida OAK Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7*
LH—2b-0.3 3b-3 HR-1.1 BB-10 .120/.201/.217 OPS-.418
RH—2b-2.3 3b-0.3 HR-3.5 BB-13 .158/.259/.297 OPS-.556

1965 Sonny Siebert CLE Throws-R BAL-2L S7/R3 ADDED TO SET
LH— 5.30 0.00 1.30 2 0 0.072 0.089 0.158 0.247
RG-- 1.25 0.30 2.10 7 0 0.140 0.196 0.221 0.417
1970 Siebert, Sonny BOS Throws-R BAL-1L END-S7*
LH—2b-3.4 3b-0 HR-3.8 BB-8 .189/.249/.335 OPS-.584
RH—2b-3 3b-0.2 HR-5.2 BB-2 .209/.224/.388 OPS-.612

1968 Bobby Bolin, SF, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S8/R4
LH—2b-0.8, 3b- 0.6, HR-1.2, BB-6, 118/167/187, .354 OPS
RH—2b-8.5, 3b-0.2, HR-1.1, BB-6, 144/192/228, .420 OPS
Current 1962 Bolin, 1.14m, SF, Throws-R, 5L Balance, R4
LH—2b-0,3b-0,HR-0,BB-18, 174/312/174, .486 OPS
RH--2b-3.3, 3b-1.2, HR-9.2, BB-1, 249/256/560, .816 OPS

1988 Joe Magrane STL Throws-L BAL-2L END-S7
LH—2b-0.0 3b-2.7 HR-1.9 BB-9 .096/.171/.206 OPS-.377
RH—2b-4.6 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-7 .192/.244/.250 OPS-.494
1987 Current Magrane, Joe STL Throws-L BAL-1L END-S7
LH—2b-1.8 3b-1.6 HR-0.2 BB-8 .179/.239/.233 OPS-.472
RH—2b-4.6 3b-0 HR-0 BB-8 .203/.262/.249 OPS-.511

1943 Max Lanier STL Throws-L BAL-E END-S8/R5
LH—2b-0.5 3b-0.3 HR-0.0 BB-8 .215/.273/.226 OPS-.499
RH—2b-0.5 3b-0.3 HR-0.0 BB-8 .215/.273/.226 OPS-.499
1946 Current Lanier, Max STL Throws-L BAL-2L END-S9
LH—2b-0.6 3b-0.3 HR-0 BB-7 .093/.151/.103 OPS-.254
RH—2b-0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0 BB-7 .144/.200/.155 OPS-.255
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PostFri Jun 05, 2020 5:23 pm

not 100% your looking for name but I did put this one in the nominations thread.

1904 Rube Waddell. Current at 1905 which is his triple crown year however I believe, relative to the year and despite the numbers being similar, his 04 year had a much wider gap to the next pitcher with a 11.3 WAR. Not sure many players with WAR > 10 don't reside in current ATG9

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