Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

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Re: Nomination Ideas----PLAYERS WITH NO CARDS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 4:57 pm

andycummings65 wrote:70s&80s Hitters

1968 Ted Uhlaender MIN Bats-L BAL-3R CF-2(0)e5 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 0.3 3b-1 HR-2.5 BB-0 .196/.204/.287 OPS-.491
RH--2b- 5.9 3b-1.4 HR-0.5 BB-3 .358/.388/.456 OPS-.844
Late 60s Twins CF, hits RHP

1969 Ollie Brown SD Bats-R BAL-5L RF-2(-4)e8 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 0 3b-1.2 HR-12 BB-14 .366/.454/.778 OPS-1.232
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.2 HR-0 BB-3.2 .260/.301/.389 OPS-.690
Great line vs LHP, 13 year career


1969 Mack Jones MON Bats-L BAL-4R LF-3(-1)e13, CF-4(-1)e13 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.6 HR-1 BB-17 .185/.366/.303 OPS-.669
RH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.8 HR-8.3 BB-15 .294/.438/.660 OPS-1.098
Good first season with expansion Expos, hits RHP, 10 year veteran


1977 Lamar Johnson CWS Bats-R BAL-5L 1b-4e16 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-3.5 HR-9.8 BB-6 .419/.451/.819 OPS-1.270
RH--2b- 0 3b-0.3 HR-7.5 BB-0 .286/.286/.499 OPS-.785
Smokes LHP for 1970s White Sox……

1978 Ivan DeJesus CHC Bats-R BAL-1L SS-2e28 INJ Risk-In Game
LH--2b-1.2 3b-3.4 HR-0.8 BB-14 .327/.421/.438 OPS.858
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.4 HR-1 BB-14 .301/.398/.379 OPS-.777
Longtime Cubs/Phillies SS, SHOULD BE in any set, not a bad add for low cap leagues, 15 year veteran SS

1978 Otto Velez TOR Bats-R BAL-7L 1b-4e25, LF/RF-4(+1)e8 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 6.4 3b-2 HR-8.2 BB-26 .347/.516/.784 OPS-1.301
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0 HR-0 BB-20 .108/.290/.152 OPS-.442
Early Blue Jays hitter, good platoon vs LHP………….

1979 Mike Ivie SF Bats-R BAL-6L 1b-2e8, 3b-4e37, 2b-4e41, LF-4(+2)e16 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 7.3 3b-0.5 HR-18.8 BB-3 .392/.415/1.014 OPS-1.429
RH--2b- 3 3b-0.5 HR-7.8 BB-15 .272/.380/.570 OPS-.950
Giants and Padres first sacker, check out those amazing HR stats vs LHP.

1979 Ron H. Jackson MIN Bats-R BAL-3L 1b-2e10, 3b-4e18, SS-4e48, LF-4(+1)e16 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 15.1 3b-3 HR-1.9 BB-8 .332/.400/.608 OPS-1.008
RH--2b- 4.8 3b-0 HR-2.4 BB-7 .231/.302/.354 OPS-.656
Came to Twins from Angels in a trade after Rod Carew signed with the Angels, good doubles vs LHP

1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player, hopefully that Catcher defense would drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner.

1980 Rick Cerone NYY Bats-R BAL-E C-1(-4)e4 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 8.85 3b-1.95 HR-0.5 BB-1 .305/.324/.440 OPS-.765
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0 HR-6.5 BB-6 .315/.366/.561 OPS-.927
Finished 7th in MVP Voting, helped lead Yankees to AL East title, then apparently saw his shadow or something

1980 Miguel Dilone CLE Bats-S BAL-2R LF-2(+3)e10, CF/RF-3(+3)e10 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 7.6 3b-0.2 HR-0 BB- 0 .354 .360 .428 OPS- .787
RH--2b- 5.8 3b-4 HR-0 BB- 3 .416 .438 .548 OPS- .986
If not for some guys named Brett and Cooper, Dilone would’ve won the 1980 batting title, not much defensively, but here he is………….

1980 Art Howe HOU Bats-R BAL-4L 3b-2e10, 1b-3e23, 2b-3e8, SS-4e48 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 2 3b-2.2 HR-5.3 BB-9 .374/.432/.601 OPS-1.033
RH--2b- 3 3b-2.1 HR-2.3 BB-12 .185/.283/.334 OPS-.617
Old-time Astro, gives a good platoon vs LHP and plays enough IF positions well to make him a valuable infield sub as well. Give old Art a card and tell Billy Beane he's a jerk.

1981 Gene Richards SD Bats-L BAL-E LF-4(0)e8 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 0 3b-6.6 HR-0.5 BB-16 .307/.416/.468 OPS-.884
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-4.1 HR-1.3 BB-15 .313/.414/.495 OPS-.909
Padres speedster, check out those triples………………


1984 Dave Collins CIN Bats-S BAL-E LF/CF-4(+1)e3, 1b-4e22 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 7.5 3b-5.7 HR-0 BB-1 .347/.377/.531 OPS-.908
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-5.7 HR-1 BB-7 .330/.398/.537 OPS-.935
15 year veteran, would be a nice speedy guy for small cap leagues

1984 Greg Walker CWS Bats-L BAL-7R 1b-3e8 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-0 HR-2.5 BB-16 .113/.252/.223 OPS-.475
RH--2b- 10 3b-0.3 HR-9.8 BB-3 .349/.373/.731 OPS-1.104
1980s White Sox hitter, nice line vs RHP

1986 Gary Pettis CAL Bats-S BAL-1L CF-1(0)e8 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 1.6 3b-1.5 HR-2.1 BB-6 .280/.320/.387 OPS-.708
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-1.5 BB-18 .216/.346/.319 OPS-.665
Angels CF, lots of speed, cheap

1987 Candy Maldonado SF Bats-R BAL-E RF/LF-3(-3)e7 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 7.6 3b-1 HR-5.7 BB-10 .318/.400/.598 OPS-.998
RH--2b- 7.6 3b-1.4 HR-5.9 BB-4 .326/.369/.602 OPS-.972
14 year career, good run with late 80s Giants, solid player


1988 Jose Lind PIT Bats-R BAL-1R 2b-1e12 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 4 3b-0 HR-0 BB-9 .226/.291/.267 OPS-.557
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.4 HR-1.1 BB-6 .312/.350/.385 OPS-.735
Chico was a good defensive 2b for that Pirates early 90s mini-dynasty, needs a card……….


1973 Ron Bloomberg? Platoon against Righties.
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 5:32 pm

2008 Milton Bradley TEX Bats-R BAL-4L LF/RF-4(0)e25 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH—2b-7.7 3b-0.0 HR-11.0 BB-18 .415/.534/.888 OPS-1.423
RH—3b-8.1 3b-0.0 HR-4.7 BB-18 .378/.505/.636 OPS-1.141
Definitely a DH.

1973 Ron Blomberg NYY Bats-L BAL-5R 1b-5e30 INJ Risk-15
LH—2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-6.0 BB-24 .071/.278/.286 OPS-.563
RH—2b-4.3 3b-0.0 HR-4.7 BB-8 .392/.437/.576 OPS-1.013
Deifinitely a DH.


In doing the Stats, I'm going by the way Strat counts Plate Appearances, AB + BB. If Bill wants to make a ruling on how to determine Plate Appearances, (adding HBP) that's fine, and I'll post Shumpert, though I don't prefer to make a superstar out of a guy who was a career scrub without there being an Unleashed Set for ATG.
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 5:52 pm

Oh you are right. Shumpert AB + BB does not equal 300 PA. It equals 293. But he only has 2 HBP, so you also have to add in SF + SH to get to 304 PA per BB Reference. That's a stretch for inclusion, but I will let Bill chime in.
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 7:22 pm

ratioman2 wrote:Oh you are right. Shumpert AB + BB does not equal 300 PA. It equals 293. But he only has 2 HBP, so you also have to add in SF + SH to get to 304 PA per BB Reference. That's a stretch for inclusion, but I will let Bill chime in.


Technically he is eligible. Baseball reference is the final arbiter here. 1999 32 COL NL 92 304 (PA). Though I do agree with Andy, that it's more of an "unleashed" type of card where ATG is concerned.

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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Two requests from BDWard, putting them on right list...

1974 Mike Jorgensen MON Bats-L BAL-E 1b-1e3, LF/RF-3(0)e6, CF-4(0)e6 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 6.1 3b-0 HR-5 BB-25 .346/.509/.606 OPS-1.115
RH--2b- 4.75 3b-0 HR-4.3 BB-32 .355/.558/.591 OPS-1.149
Had this in my lists to start out, but it's just such an outlier, I chose not to list it. His 1975 card is listed below.
1975 Mike Jorgensen MON Bats-L BAL-2R 1b-1e9, LF/RF-3(0)e6, CF-4(0)e6 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b-0.5 3b-0 HR-1.3 BB-11 .255/.351/.299 OPS-.651
RH--2b-3.3 3b-0 HR-6 BB-22 .257/.429/.513 OPS-.942


2010 Alexei Ramirez CWS Bats-R BAL-1R SS1-e21 INJ Risk-3
LH—2b-0.5 3b-1.0 HR-3.8 BB-0 .294/.301/.422 OPS-.723
RH--5.7 3b-0.0 HR-2.8 BB-3 .312/.337/.445 OPS-.782
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostFri Jun 05, 2020 10:27 am

2006 Kenji Johjima SEA ?
Much needed catcher help for the Mariners
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostFri Jun 05, 2020 8:27 pm

visick wrote:2006 Kenji Johjima SEA ?
Much needed catcher help for the Mariners



2006 Kenji Johjima SEA Bats-R BAL-3R C-4(0)e2 INJ Risk-15
LH--6.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .245/.285/.305 OPS-.585
RH--2b-3.6 3b-0.2 HR-7.1 BB-0 .328/.359/.573 OPS-.932
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostFri Jun 05, 2020 10:23 pm

Thanks Andy...
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostSat Jun 06, 2020 10:26 am

I'm still curious on Shumpert. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

PostSat Jun 06, 2020 1:05 pm

1999 Terry Shumpert COL Bats-R BAL-2L 2b-3e10, SS-4e48, 3b-4e19, RF/LF/CF-4(+2)e19 INJ Risk-15 (3 Rating)
LH--2b-12.1 3b-1.7 HR-3.2 BB-12 .527/.588/.794 OPS-1.382
RH--2b-14.3 3b-1.5 HR-4.2 BB-12 .384/.464/.702 OPS-1.166
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