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Poll ended at Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:26 pm

1. 2018 Blake Snell TB LHSP, AL Cy Young Winner, 21-5, 1.89, 0.974whip, 221k's, The Rays franchise needs this card!!! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93445/2018/1/2018
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2. 1930 Carl Reynolds, White Sox, RF/LF 2(-1)e12, CF 3. Bats R .359/.388/.584/.973 with 16 SBs, 22 HRs and 104 RBI, with career highs in PA, H, R, BA, TR (18!), HR, RBI, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+ & TB. Only Sox legends Luke Appling, Shoeless Joe Jackson and Eddie Collins (twice) had a higher single season BA for the White Sox. Reynolds had blazing speed and was considered among the best OFers in the game, but was slowed by injuries after 1930. HOFer Al Simmons played for the Sox from 1933-35, but Reynolds' 1930 season was better than any of the 3 by Simmons. Reynolds finished his 13 year big league career with a .302 career BA. He has just one lousy $1.34 mil card with the 1934 Red Sox.
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3.1946 Roy Cullenbine Detroit 335/477/537 1.014 (200 points better than his only card). 175 OPS+ 1B, LF, RF Major league leader in consecutive games with a walk (22).
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4. 1992 Curt Schilling P PHI. He spent most of his time in Philadelphia and should have a card there. 1992 saw a career best ERA, H/9 and HR/9. Low K totals should keep his salary down and this card can both start and relieve.
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5. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triplein an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS 135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
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6. 1974 Bill Buckner - .314/.348/.412 2R balance. *18, 1-15 running. I did have another nomination in mind, but with Buckner's recent passing this became a priority for me. We need a card that represents Buckner when he could still run, and was an awesome fielder in LF!
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7. 1993 Tony Phillips Detroit LF, CF, RF 2B, 3B Only top 20 MVP finish 313/443/398. Far better card then his two current cards
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8. 1926 Les Bell St Louis Cards 3B .325/.383/.518 finished 6th in MVP voting, 33 doubles/14 triples/ 17 HRs, 137 ops+, rh hitter
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9. 2001 Matt Morris, St Louis Cardinals, SP, 3.16 ERA, 1.257 WHIP, 3rd in Cy Young voting, would be a valuable addition to EXP Cardinal franchise teams
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10. 2018 Jacob deGrom NYM SP 10-8, 1.70 ERA, 0.91 WHIP, NL Cy Young Award winner. In franchise mode, would make an already tough Mets rotation downright scary with Seaver, Gooden, Harvey, Koosman, Dickey et al.
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11. 1980 Rudy May, Yankees - 15-5 2.47 1.044 WHIP. 7R balance, tough on righties. Led A.L. in ERA, WHIP & SO/BB ratio. Career bests in WHIP, BB9 & SO/BB ratio. Crafty lefty deserves a better card. Would add a nice backward lefty card, and a great 5 man rotation option. Just 1 ATG card.
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12. 2014 Pat Neshek, StL, RH RP. 7-2, 1.87 ERA, 6 saves. 67.1 IP, .787 WHIP, 195 ERA+. still active - has played with 7 teams. Quality RP representative of this modern era, https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... 014/1/3014
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13. 2014 Jordan Zimmermann Wash, RH SP 2.66 ERA 1.07 WHIP 182 K 199.2 IP
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14. 1922 Reb Russell (yes, that Reb Russell) PIT RF 250 PA, .368/.423/.668 12 HR 75 RBI (prorates to 180 RBI in 600 PA).
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15. 1988 Mike Greenwell BOS LF - His best season. 2nd in MVP behind "Juiced" Canseco - .325/22/119 .946 OPS - 87 BBs v. 38 Ks ( Zero strikeouts on card!). Killer v. RHP 4R balance https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/834638/1680/1/80
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16.1979 Pete Rose, Phillies, 1B, 163 games, .331 BA, .418 OBP, 15th place in NL MVP vote (clayface9)
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17. 1993 Mike Blowers SEA: 3B, 1B. 280 BA, .357 OBP, .475 SLG, 9L. This is a lefty killer card (9L) better in offensive value vs LHP than Mark Brouhard's--and Blowers plays 3B! Assuming OK defense and a moderate price-tag, this will prove a popular and frequently used card. https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1690/1/90
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18. 1905 Mike Donlin BA 356 .413 .495 .908 OPS+ 167; 676 Plate Appearances; lead league in RS 124; lifetime .333 hitter with lifetime 142 OPS+; 33 Steals ;OPS for this season is almost 100 points above his current and only card in ATG.
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19.1923 Cy Williams, Phillies, CF - Led the League with 41 homers, 19 MORE than the runner-up; Cy actually led the NL in homers 4 times. His best slugging year deserves a card..
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20. 2004 Francisco Rodriguez Anaheim Number three all time saves, 16 years, no card. Fourth in Cy Young. With 84 innings 1.0 WHIP, only .2 home runs per 9 and an incredible 13.2 strikeouts per 9.
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21. 1954 SP Johnny Antonelli - NYG "Triple Crown" Led K's, W's, and ERA
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22. 2012 SS Alcides Escobar- KC Royals- Finally gives KC EXP a SS- AA stealer- 1e20 https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... 012/1/2012
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23. 1974 Buzz Capra, Atlanta Braves, RH SP, Braves, 8R 16-8 2.28 1.138 Career bests in wins, ERA, WHIP, IP, SO, H9, HR9. In a league loaded with great pitchers such as future HOFers Gibson, Seaver, Sutton, Niekro and Carlton and All Stars John, Messersmith, Reuss, Matlack, Koosman, Rogers, Lonborg, Hooton, Dierker, Wilson, Ellis, Nolan, Richard & Marshall, Capra led the league in ERA and H9! No ATG card. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/731773/1670/1/70
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24. 1945 Tommy Holmes Boston Braves DO-47 TR-6 HR-28 RBI-117 AVG-.352 OB%-.420 SL%-.577 RF3e6/LF3e6/CF4e6 Arm -+1
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25. 1922 Casey Stengel, NYG, OF, 368 Avg, 436 OBP, 564 Slg, 10 3Bs in 283 Plate Appearances, plus 9 HBP!
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26. 1925 ROGERS HORNSBY - TRIPLE CROWN MVP- we should have this card!!! BA.403 OBP. 481 OPS.1245 HR: 39 2B.41 This is his best offensive year by a decent amount- def is only 2E38 but still we want this card!!! me Precious!
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27. 1993 Alex Fernandez, White Sox SP 18-9 3.13, WHIP 1.16.. franchise leagues that focus on exp era need more White SOX RHSP.. He was a solid pitcher in his career with the White Sox and Marlins
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28. 1925 Bob Meusel, NYY, E Balance, LF-1(-4)e5, RF-2(-4)e5, CF-4(-4)e5, 3b-4e27, 3 Game INJ Risk Did you know that Meusel trails only Babe Ruth, Ken Williams and Cy Williams for Home Runs hit during the 1920s, yet his two current cards are the two lowest career home run seasons in his career (8 & 9). In 1925 he led the league in Home Runs (33) and RBI (134)
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29. 1935 Billy Rogell, DET, Bats R, E Balance, SS-2e24 LH--2.4 2b, 2.5 3b, 0.6 HR, 15 BB 289/394/390, .784 OPS RH--2.4 2b, 2.6 3b, 0.6 HR, 19 BB 302/431/407, .838 OPS Tigers shortstop in the 1930s, World Series in 1934 & 1935, 9 year DP combo with Charlie Gehringer. Has good OBP, would be a nice, cheap alternative in smaller cap leagues. Also continued producing for Detroit for several decades as a city councilman.
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30. 1949 Stan Musial - doesn't hit the ball quite as hard as the '48 card, but lots more walks, higher OBP, and better platoon split vs. RHP
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31. 1985 Rick Reuschel, Pirates 14-8 2.27 1.057 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9, SO9. At the tender age of 36, Reuschel put together his finest season for the lowly 104 loss Pirates. The portly pitcher even won a Gold Glove! Reuschel is another player with 200+ career wins, playing mostly with bad teams, who is deserving of a better card, and the Post War/Expansion Pirates desperately need more starting pitching. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/840039/1680/1/80
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32. 1928 Max Bishop, PHA, 2b-1e18 4.3 2b, 0.4 3b, 0.8 HR, 26 BB 373/530/464, .993 OPS 4.7 2b, 0.4 3b, 1 HR, 26 BB 402/551/507, 1.058 OPS Bishop was a big contributor for those great A's teams. He should have his best card.
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33. 1930 Lou Gehrig NYY 1B
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34. 1939 Don Padgett STL C 257ABs, hit .399, OPS 998. Part time catcher/OF. Lefty catcher who spent 4 years in the service during WWII. Let’s give our veterans support! Can’t have enough lefty catchers around to pound RH pitchers. Getting tired of Jack Clements anyways....
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35.1913 Vic Saier Cubs 1B He doesn't have a card as of yet. .289/.370/.480 Led the league with 21 triples. He was sixth that year in the MVP race.
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36.2018 Mookie Betts, BSox, 3L RF-1(-4), BA .346, OBP .438 SLG.640 30 SBs run 1-17 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91946/2018/1/2018
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37. 1959 Johnny Logan, MIL, Bats-R, 3L Balance, SS-2e21
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38. 1973 Steve Rogers, RH SP, 5L, Expos 10-5, 1.54 ERA, 1.060 WHIP, 6.2 H/9, 3.3 BB/9 Career long Expo, who despite 13 years with some really bad Expo teams, starting in 1973, somehow managed to go 158-152 during his career. Expos could use better starting pitching.
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39. 1977 Bob Watson, HOU, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 1b-3e10, 3 Game INJ Risk LH—5.9 2b, 0.4 3b, 9.6 HR, 6 BB 393/444/752, 1.195 OPS RH—9.2 2b, 1.7 3b, 5.6 HR, 9 BB 314/390/623, 1.013 OPS Without a doubt, Watson needs an ATG upgrade. 14 year Astro in a 19 year career
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40.1945 Johnny Dickshot Chicago White Sox .302 BA 10 triples 58 RBI's 10SB
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41. 1969 Ollie Brown, SD, 5L Balance, RF-2(-4)e8 no card in ATG
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42. 1972 Gary Nolan, Reds, RHSP 15-5 1.99 1.006 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, W-L%. Led NL in W-L%, 2nd in ERA (trailing only Steve Carlton, 1.97 to 1.99), & BB9, 3rd in WHIP (behind Carlton & Don Sutton) and 8th in H9. Nolan was plagued by arm trouble throughout his injury shortened career, but still was lifetime 110-70 .611 with a career 3.08 ERA. A good reverse RHSP at 3L. Post War and Expansion Reds could use another SP. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738901/1670/1/70
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43. 1998 Orlando Hernandez NYY 12-4 3.13 ERA 1.17 WHIP 131Ks in 141 IP - It's El Duque. Nuff said.
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44. 2009 Nick Punto, MIN, Bats-S, 1L Balance, 2b-2e5, SS-2e21, 3b-2e11, Steal: *4,5/-(19-12) https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/925/2009/1/2009. We need bench players good at all 3 inf positions in ATG.
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45. 1989 Mickey Tettleton, Orioles, Ca; 26 HR & 73 walks in only 411 AB – he had a strong argument for MVP in 1989 Orioles miracle turnaround season
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46. 1941 Thornton Lee, White Sox, LHSP 22-11 2.37. Led A.L. pitchers in ERA, CG, ERA+ & WAR. Career bests in W, W-L%, ERA, IP, CG, ERA+, WAR, ShO, K, H9 & WHIP. This would be a big upgrade over Lee's other cards, which are seldom used, and would give the Prewar White Sox a badly needed SP in franchise leagues
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47. 1954 Smoky Burgess, PHI, Bats-L, 8R Balance, C-4(+1)e9 Smoky needs a card that represents how good of a hitter he was. This card will be a great platoon card for small ball teams.
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48. 1991 Otis Nixon - ATL OF .297/.371/.327. Fun player, 72 SB in a 124 games, 1L Balance, CF/LF/RF-2(+2)e5, *2-7,11/-(18-16)
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49. 1993 Mike Stanley NYY, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 305/389/534, .923 OPS, C-3(-1)e1 17 2B 26 HR 84 RBI
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50. 1985 Donnie Moore CAL, Throws-R, R2, 7L balance, 1.92 ERA, 1.09 WHIP. Was treated shamefully by fans in real life. Let's do right by him in Strat.
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostSun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 pm

Outta Leftfield wrote:
andycummings65 wrote::roll:
Bob Watson, Bob Meusel, Billy Rogell, Otis Nixon, Thornton Lee, Max Bishop, Alex Fernandez, Mike Donlin, Johnny Logan, and others either have no card or need an upgrade; please consider players who deserve to be in the set due to their longtime careers.


I'm a little uncertain about this comment with regard to Bob Meusel. His new card looks to me like it would be a marginal improvement over the current card, but not a major upgrade. Am I missing something? :?:


I think it is unique for Meusel, which is how I try to look at improvements.
To me, an improvement is either:
1-- Player needs a better card for a better representation of his career
2-- A unique card for the player that would change his place in the set

The 1925 Meusel has a LOT more Home Run power than his other cards, with better speed and defense than his other cards.

1925 Bob Meusel, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-4)e5, RF-2(-4)e5, CF-4(-4)e5, 3b-4e27, 3 Game INJ Risk, Run-1-16
LH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.2 HR, 7 BB 316/366/723, 1.089 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.0 HR, 7 BB 311/362/712, 1.074 OPS

Current 1927 Meusel, 6.03m, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-5)e11, *2-5/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk, Run 1-15
LH--17.1 2b, 2.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 7 BB 390/435/624, 1.059 OPS
RH--10 2b, 2 3b, 2.3 HR, 8 BB 395/445/605, 1.050 OPS
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostMon Aug 12, 2019 5:47 am

Home runs, my friend. The universal currency here.
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostMon Aug 12, 2019 11:42 am

Actually I like the Escobar choice, Royals SS needs an upgrade, as do Twins (91 Greg Gagne).


Judging by the 15 votes, not many believe they do... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostMon Aug 12, 2019 9:16 pm

The 1925 Meusel has a LOT more Home Run power than his other cards, with better speed and defense than his other cards.

1925 Bob Meusel, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-4)e5, RF-2(-4)e5, CF-4(-4)e5, 3b-4e27, 3 Game INJ Risk, Run-1-16
LH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.2 HR, 7 BB 316/366/723, 1.089 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.0 HR, 7 BB 311/362/712, 1.074 OPS

Current 1927 Meusel, 6.03m, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-5)e11, *2-5/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk, Run 1-15
LH--17.1 2b, 2.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 7 BB 390/435/624, 1.059 OPS
RH--10 2b, 2 3b, 2.3 HR, 8 BB 395/445/605, 1.050 OPS


OK, I think I'm getting it. Are there are a lot more BPHR on the 1925 card?
If so, that might not show up as such an obvious difference in a 10-10 park like Veterans, but it would make a real difference in a righty power park.
It's too late in terms of my vote in this round, but he may make it in this year, and if not, I could vote for him next year...
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostMon Aug 12, 2019 9:56 pm

You did see that he has 10 HR each way - that's 4 from BPHR in a 1-10 park and 6 naturals.

Looks like the cut line is 22 at this point. Some of the 21's may have a shot. Meusel is at 25, he should be comfortable. I'm not really comfortable that this card will be priced much more than the other, since he's only a 2 in RF and a -4 arm in LF is pretty much wasted.
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostTue Aug 13, 2019 9:45 pm

Many times, this process amazes me.
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 8:28 am

Exactly :roll: :roll:

We vote in cards that never see the light of day...
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 9:22 am

Otis Nixon needs your votes! Currently tied for the last one in!

Let's finally get Otis added to the set!

Thanks
Bill
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 2:57 am

From a purely selfish perspective (since I nominated him)...I would have liked to have thought that Les Bell might have gotten some more consideration...we can always use decent hitting (and acceptable defending) third basemen...a name from a distant past with no resonance but would have made a nice addition...oh, well
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Re: 19.4 Voting now Open!

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 8:19 am

george barnard wrote:From a purely selfish perspective (since I nominated him)...I would have liked to have thought that Les Bell might have gotten some more consideration...we can always use decent hitting (and acceptable defending) third basemen...a name from a distant past with no resonance but would have made a nice addition...oh, well


Les got my vote. Apparently he doesn’t have enough descendants active on the boards.
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