Deadball Hitters---IMPROVEMENT Edition

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Re: Deadball Hitters---IMPROVEMENT Edition

PostSat Mar 30, 2019 3:59 pm

djp_77 wrote:Johnny Evers 1912
Miller Huggins 1913
Home Run Baker 1912
Heinie Groh 1919 1921
Larry Gardner 1912 1921


1912 Johnny Evers, CHC, Bats-L, E Balance, 2b-1e34, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--4.2 2b, 2.5 3b, 0 HR, 19 BB 435/540/540, 1.080 OPS
RH--4.3 2b, 2.7 3b, 0 HR, 19 BB 451/552/560, 1.113 OPS

Current 1908 Evers, 6.48m, CHC, Bats-L, 1R Balance, 2b-1e14, Steal: *3-6/- (19-15),15 Game INJ Risk
LH--4.2 2b, 1.2 3b, 0 HR, 21 BB 338/473/415, .888 OPS
RH--5 2b, 1.4 3b, 0 HR, 21 BB 410/530/500, 1.030 OPS

This looks like it would be a nice add. HOF, and an improvement with its balance.




1913 Miller Huggins, STL, Bats-S, E Balance, 2b-2e19, Steal: *2-9,10,11/(15-9), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--1.5 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 32 BB 389/576/409, .985 OPS
RH--1.5 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 32 BB 389/576/409, .985 OPS
Current 1912 Huggins, 5.22m, STL, Bats-S, 1R Balance, 2b-2e22, Steal: *3-6/- (19-15), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--1.7 2b, 0.2 3b, 0 HR, 27 BB 371/534/396, .930 OPS
RH--1.8 2b, 0.3 3b, 0 HR, 27 BB 413/565/442, 1.007 OPS

He's pretty much the same player both seasons. Don't see a real pressing reason to add 1913




1912 Frank Baker, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, 2b-3e24, Steal: *3-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--8.8 2b, 5.4 3b, 2.5 HR, 8 BB 443/490/717, 1.206 OPS
RH--8.6 HR, 5.3 3b, 2.5 HR, 8 BB 447/494/717, 1.211 OPS
7th in MVP Voting. Led League in Home Runs and RBI.

Current 1913 Baker, 6.87m, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-3e32, Steal: *4-6,12/- (18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--7.3 2b, 1.5 3b, 3 HR, 11 BB 428/491/628, 1.121 OPS
RH--7.3 2b, 1.5 3b, 3 HR, 11 BB 438/500/638, 1.138 OPS
5th in MVP Voting. Led League in Home Runs and RBI.

Current 1911 Baker, 6.08m, PHA, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 3b-2e19, Steal: *2-12/- (15-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.1 2b, 1.8 3b, 1.4 HR, 6 BB 374/415/501, .916 OPS
RH--10.9 2b, 3.2 3b, 4.4 HR, 2 BB 398/414/688, 1.102 OPS
11th in MVP Voting. Led League in Home Runs.

Slugger for the Million Dollar Infield, I like the 1912 card for it's XBH. I wouldn't be opposed to it being added.





1919 Heinie Groh, CIN, Bats-R, 1L Balance, 2b-2e15, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.6 2b, 3.5 3b, 1.4 HR, 16 BB 414/506/577, 1.083 OPS
RH--3.2 2b, 3 3b, 1.4 HR, 16 BB 366/466/513, .979 OPS

1921 Heinie Groh, CIN, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 2b-2e29, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--6 2b, 1.8 3b, 0 HR, 12 BB 442/509/543, 1.051 OPS
RH--5 2b, 1.6 3b, 0 HR, 12 BB 369/445/455, .900 OPS

Current 1917 Groh, 4.96m, CIN, Bats-R, E Balance, 3b-2e15, 2b-3e19, BULLETPROOF
LH--8.2 2b, 2 3b, 0 HR, 14 BB 397/481/528, 1.009 OPS
RH--8 2b, 2 3b, 0 HR, 14 BB 390/475/519, .994 OPS
Led League in Doubles.

Current 1920 Groh, 4.85m, CIN, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 3b-1e14, SS-4e29
LH--7.3 2b, 4.3 3b, 0 HR, 12 BB 399/483/569, 1.052 OPS
RH--4.7 2b, 1.8 3b, 0 HR, 15 BB 313/427/403, .830 OPS

Pretty much the same all the way around. Don't see a need here.



1912 Larry Gardner, BOS, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-1e37, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--4.7 2b, 5 3b, 1.1 HR, 12 BB 386/460/575, 1.034 OPS
RH--4.7 2b, 5 3b, 1.1 HR, 12 BB 386/460/575, 1.034 OPS
14th in MVP Voting.

1921 Larry Gardner, CLE, Bats-L, E Balance, 3b-1e27, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.1 2b, 3.2 3b, 0.3 HR, 12 BB 355/433/484, .917 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 3 3b, 0.3 HR, 12 BB 351/429/475,.903 OPS

Current 1920 Gardner, 3.94m, CLE, Bats-L, 1R Balance, 3b-1e11, BULLETPROOF
LH--5.5 2b, 0 3b, 1 HR, 6 BB 289/328/372, .700 OPS
RH--4.2 2b, 3.3 3b, 1 HR, 9 BB 307/364/446, .810 OPS

Current 1911 Gardner, 2.90m, BOS, Bats-L, 4R Balance, 3b-2e15, 2b-3e15, 2 INJ Rating
LH--3.3 2b, 0 3b, 1 HR, 6 BB 184/244/247, .491 OPS
RH--1.1 2b, 2.3 3b, 1 HR, 18 BB 355/474/452, .926 OPS

Gardner was a mainstay in the infield for 3 World Champion Red Sox teams. Give him that 1912 card, where he helped lead the Red Sox to 105 wins. I would like this add a lot (1912), and it's a nice improvement on a good player.
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Re: Deadball Hitters---IMPROVEMENT Edition

PostFri May 31, 2019 12:23 pm

Why don't we have the 1915 Cobb? His career bests in OBP and stolen bases (the major league record until 1962!)
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Re: Deadball Hitters---IMPROVEMENT Edition

PostFri May 31, 2019 1:37 pm

I like the Baker, Evers and Gardner additions a lot-

they would all get my vote
and am interested to hear about that Cobb card- although we have 3, if its got some interesting things might be nice.
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