Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

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Re: Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

PostMon Mar 18, 2019 10:51 pm

The Last Druid wrote:An important addition IMHO. He won't set the world afire but he belongs in ATG with at least one card.

Let's start off with this:

Hall of Fame Statistics
Black Ink
Batting - 56 (23), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray Ink
Batting - 210 (36), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame Monitor
Batting - 86 (224), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards
Batting - 34 (247), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS
Left Field (37th):
45.2 career WAR / 31.1 7yr-peak WAR / 38.1 JAWS
Average HOF LF (out of 20):
65.5 career WAR / 41.6 7yr-peak WAR / 53.6 JAWS

I refer to Harry Stovey, considered the 5th best pre-1900 slugger (google it). Had a 14 year career mostly with the Philadelphia Athletics, his two best years were 1889 and 1891 (with Boston Beaneaters nl) playing 1B and OF. Don't care which one gets a card prefer the 1889 card a bit. Lifetime OPS + of 144. Probably deserves to be in the HOF.

1889 32 PHA AA 137 634 556 152 171 38 13 19 119 63 (SB) 77 .308 .393 .525 .918 163

1891 BSN NL 134 625 544 118 152 31 20 16 95 57 (SB) 79 .279 .373 .498 .871 144





1889 Harry Stovey, PHN (not Phillies or A's, it's an old American Association team), Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF-2(-2)e25
LH-- 9 2b, 3.5 3b, 6.3 HR, 15 BB 312/407/685, 1.093 OPS
RH--9 2b, 3.5 3b, 5.5 HR, 16 BB 283/389/626, 1.014 OPS

1891 Harry Stovey, BSB, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-1(-1)e25, LF- 3(-1)e25, 1b-4e30
LH--4.7 2b, 5.5 3b, 5.4 HR, 14 BB 292/390/635, 1.025 OPS
RH--4.7 2b, 5.5 3b, 5.4 HR, 15 BB 295/400/642, 1.041 OPS

I'm not really interested in pre-1894 guys, but he doesn't have those super high batting averages, and a good bit of XBH & OBP.
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Re: Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

PostMon Mar 18, 2019 10:57 pm

djp_77 wrote:Vic Saier 1913



1913 Vic Saier, CHC, Bats-L, 1R Balance, 1b-4e26
LH--1.4 2b, 5.7 3b, 4 HR, 14 BB 0.326 0.420 0.593 1.013
RH--1.6 2b, 6.2 3b, 4.3 HR, 14 BB 0.350 0.440 0.638 1.078
13th in MVP Voting, Led League in Triples. Has some power, good OBP and speed. He's on one of my longer lists as a decent add with no card. Cubs starting 1b for 6 seasons.
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Re: Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

PostTue Mar 19, 2019 9:05 am

As always awesome breakdowns Andy! GREAT job!
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Re: Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

PostTue Apr 02, 2019 4:28 pm

John Titus 05 12
Billy Southworth 18 26
Braggo Roth 20
Jim Thorpe 17
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Re: Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

PostWed Apr 03, 2019 1:15 pm

Jimmy Barrett 00 01 02 03

I just read about him last night. He was known for his fielding and his throwing arm so hopefully one of these has a good throwing arm. It's too bad his career got cut short by a knee injury.
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Re: Deadball Hitters--NO CARD Edition

PostTue Apr 23, 2019 3:58 pm

Also Andy could you see if there are any Charlie Bennett cards that represent how good of a defensive catcher he was. I would normally go with his best hitting season but I am hoping for a Bench/I-Rod level defensive card. Thanks.
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