Shortstops 18.1 Poll

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Pick 4

Alley Gene 1966 PIT
27
5%
Almon Bill 1981 CHW
14
3%
Aparicio Luis 1970 CHW
30
6%
Belanger Mark 1969 BAL
19
4%
Bowa** Larry 1978 PHI
44
9%
Campaneris Bert 1970 ATH
40
8%
Chacon Elio 1962 NYM
11
2%
Concepcion Dave 1979 CIN
45
9%
DeJesus Ivan 1978 CHC
18
4%
Hamner Granny 1952 PHI
13
3%
Hollocher* Charlie 1922 CHC
28
6%
Kessinger** Don 1969 CHC
22
4%
Peckinpaugh Roger 1925 WAS
31
6%
Rogell** Billy 1934 DET
23
5%
Russell Bill 1976 DOD
20
4%
Smalley Jr** Roy 1979 MIN
26
5%
Speier Chris 1975 GIA
16
3%
Templeton** Garry 1980 STL
57
11%
Tresh** Tom 1962 NYY
24
5%
 
Total votes : 508

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Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostSun Feb 04, 2018 10:36 pm

Pick 4, poll will run through 2/13 @ 9pm PT. Top 4 go through pending ERA distribution across SP, C, 3B , SS

Last First Year Franchse Position Cards currently in ATG - $$ Cards in ATG - Years in Career / AVE OBP SLG OPS OPS+ AB+BB SB 2B 3B HR RBI BAL DEF / WAR Other Qualifications

KEY - BC=Better Card than what's in ATG, MBC=Much Better Card, MMBC=Much Much Better Card, LL=Led League SS=Silver Slugger, GG=Gold Glove

Alley Gene 1966 PIT SS 2cards - (65)$.73,(71)$.64 - 11yrs / 299 334 418 752 108 606 8 28 0 7 43 4L 2e17 / 5.3 MVP11GG BC
Almon Bill 1981 CHW SS 0cards - 15yrs / 301 341 375 717 110 360 16 10 2 4 41 2L 3e27 / 2.2 MVP19
Aparicio Luis 1970 CHW SS 3cards - (59)$3.44,(60)$4.71,(66)$4.04 - 18yrs / 313 372 404 76 114 605 8 29 3 5 43 2L 2e21 / 4.8 MVP12 GG
Belanger Mark 1969 BAL SS 2cards - (70)$.76,(74)$2.47 - 18yrs / 287 351 345 696 95 583 14 17 4 2 50 1R 2e26 / 4.2 MVP29 GG
Bowa** Larry 1978 PHI SS 2cards - (77)$2.87,(80)$.83 - 16yrs / 294 319 370 689 92 678 27 31 5 3 43 1R 1e10 / 5.7 MVP3 GG BC
Campaneris Bert 1970 ATH SS 3cards - (73)$.84,(74)$2.23,(75)$1.37 - 19yrs / 279 321 448 769 113 639 42 28 4 22 64 E 3e22 / 5.8 MVP24 BC
Chacon Elio 1962 NYM SS 2B/3B 0cards - 3yrs / 236 368 296 664 81 444 12 10 3 2 27 1L 4e34/2b-4e8/3b-4e37 1.2
Concepcion Dave 1979 CIN SS 2cards - (75)$3.22,(81)$4.25 - 19yrs / 281 348 415 764 107 654 19 25 3 16 84 1L 1e30 / 4.9 MVP9 GG
DeJesus Ivan 1978 CHC SS 0cards - 15yrs / 278 356 354 710 91 693 41 24 7 3 35 1L 2e28 / 3.6 LL RUNS 104
Hamner Granny 1952 PHI SS 1card - (50)$.69 - 17yrs / 275 307 428 734 102 623 7 30 5 17 87 E 2e38 / 4.1 MVP31
Hollocher* Charlie 1922 CHC SS 0card - 7yrs / 340 403 444 847 117 656 19 37 8 3 69 E 2e30 / 4.9 201 HITS
Kessinger** Don 1969 CHC SS 2cards - (70)$1.40,(71)$.66 - 16yrs / 273 332 366 698 86 725 11 38 6 4 53 3R 2e21 / 4.0 MVP15 GG
Peckinpaugh Roger 1925 WAS SS 1B 2cards - (16$)4.14 (24)$3.70 - 17yrs / 294 367 379 746 91 471 13 16 4 4 64 E 1e34/1b-4e19 / 2.6 MVP1
Rogell** Billy 1934 DET SS 0cards - 14yrs / 296 374 392 766 98 668 13 32 8 3 99 1R 2e31 / 4.8
Russell Bill 1976 DOD SS 1card - (77)$.80 - 18yrs / 274 301 343 644 85 575 15 17 3 5 65 2L 2e30 / 2.6
Smalley Jr** Roy 1979 MIN SS 1B 1card - (77)$.50 - 13yrs / 271 353 441 794 110 701 0 28 3 24 95 1L 2e30/1b-4e5 / 4.3 MVP16
Speier Chris 1975 GIA SS 3B 2cards - (73)$.93,(80)$.57 - 19yrs / 271 362 415 777 112 557 4 30 5 10 69 1L 2e16/3b-4e37 / 4.2
Templeton** Garry 1980 STL SS 2cards -(84)$.52,(85)$2.52 - 16yrs / 319 342 417 759 108 542 31 19 9 4 43 E 1e42 / 4.5 SS
Tresh** Tom 1962 NYY SS LF 1card - (64$)2.63 - 9yrs / 286 359 441 800 116 689 4 26 5 20 93 1L 3e24 / 4.3 MVP12 ROY1
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostWed Feb 07, 2018 9:23 pm

Templeton in his best years would be represented better by the 1980 card than the two existing cards..but I would advocate for 1979 instead of 1980...because of the triples.
there are 2 Peckinpaugh cards but 1925 is the MVP season; Hamner card in 52 better than the existing card 1950 (.69 salary), but in 1954 he had an 800+ OPS...and might be better option still;
1962 tom tresh card MB than what is in ATG.
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostWed Feb 07, 2018 11:15 pm

In 54, Hamner played 152 games at 2B, 1 at SS
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostThu Feb 08, 2018 9:45 pm

good Catch...on Baseball reference I was comparing numbers, but did not see that position changed to mostly 2b.
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostSat Feb 10, 2018 1:14 pm

Templeton 1e42. I doubt that card gets used outside of franchise leagues.
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostSat Feb 10, 2018 4:22 pm

Depends on the price for me. I have used Jennings and Dahlen a lot so the errors don't bother me. I think Campy will get used far less with his 3e22.
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostSat Feb 10, 2018 5:59 pm

Omarlittle wrote:good Catch...on Baseball reference I was comparing numbers, but did not see that position changed to mostly 2b.


I only remembered because I played a draft league on the computer and used him.:-)
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostSat Feb 10, 2018 6:00 pm

Wish Bowa weren't a popular pick. The cards we have rep him fine.

Glad Campy's getting some love.
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Re: Shortstops 18.1 Poll

PostTue Feb 13, 2018 2:40 pm

well, that was a fairly impossible set of choices to be satisfied with...

maybe because shortstop is the prince of positions on the field?

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