Shortstops 18.1

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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostTue Jan 30, 2018 11:37 pm

Bobby Wallace had 48 errors in 1902 and it was reduced to 21 errors for Atg.
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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostWed Jan 31, 2018 11:19 am

Wouldn't the 1929 or 1926 Pop Lloyd be better?
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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostWed Jan 31, 2018 12:53 pm

There is no card for Pop Lloyd from those years on the app. Only 08,11,14,17,20,22,24,27, and 31 are available.

The 1911 card is slightly better against righties than the 1908 but the 1908 card can hit lefties well. 1911 is a 1e64
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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostThu Feb 01, 2018 2:42 am

Pop Lloyd 1908
SS 1e76
BA OBP SLG OPS RC/27 BR NERP
1/1/1/1
0.438 0.495 0.582 1.077 13.84 14.30 24.00
0.423 0.460 0.641 1.101 13.79 14.62 25.00

18/18/18/18
0.481 0.534 0.626 1.161 17.42 17.36 26.41
0.473 0.507 0.716 1.224 18.63 19.09 28.70

Pop Lloyd 1911
SS 1e64
1/1/1/1
0.350 0.368 0.513 0.880 7.83 6.48 18.3
0.452 0.482 0.656 1.139 15.60 16.14 26.14

18/18/18/18
0.390 0.407 0.553 0.960 9.97 9.54 20.79
0.502 0.530 0.731 1.261 21.00 20.60 29.85
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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostThu Feb 01, 2018 4:56 pm

andycummings65 wrote:1934 Billy Rogell DET R 1R SS-2e31 296/374/392 NO CARD, Tigers 1930's SS
1935 Billy Rogell DET R E SS-2e24 275/367/388 Offense not quite as good, defense better

Rogell was SS on Tigers 1934 World Series team and for most of 1930's


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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostThu Feb 01, 2018 4:58 pm

djp_77 wrote:Mark Belanger 1971 - 1e18
I know the 1969 has been mentioned but he is a 2e26 that season.

Travis Jackson 1930 - 1e42
Would be a better card from him and he can hit righties.

Dave Bancroft 1925 - 2e53
It would be his best card.


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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostSat Feb 03, 2018 2:22 pm

Agree with Bernie about Campy, Templeton, Bowa. Aparicio as a hall of famer indeed deserves his best card. Certainly '70 was his best offensive year but in the Back to the 70's set he is listed as a 1 for the five seasons. Need to make sure that he is a 1 in 1970 as well, otherwise his '69 card might be better if that card is a 1. Aparicio should be a 1 in 1970, he won another of his many gold gloves that year, but Maury Wills won a gold glove and was still a 2, so you never know. Agree with Concepcion getting a better card as well. Be nice if Garcia might post images of the two Peckinpaugh cards under consideration, but it would be foolish to expect any cooperation there. Another worthy add might be Roy McMillan. He was an all star in '56 and '57 and won three consecutive gold gloves starting in '57 and he had decent OBP the two all star years:

1956 26 CIN NL 150 574 479 51 126 16 7 3 62 4 3 76 54 .263 .366 .344 .710 89 165 14 5 8 6 9 *6 AS,MVP-6
1957 27 CIN NL 151 534 448 50 122 25 5 1 55 5 1 66 44 .272 .371 .357 .728 93 160 11 6 11 3 8 *6 AS,MVP-21,GG
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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostSat Feb 03, 2018 8:56 pm

Aparicio was a 2e21 in 1970 and a 2e22 in 1969

McMillan 1e23 in 56 and 1e18 in 57
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Re: Shortstops 18.1

PostSat Feb 03, 2018 11:56 pm

Thanks. When this whole shindig started, rburgh and I signed up for the pre 1900, if I recall. Both of us independently selected George Davis. Best SS of the pre-Wagner era.
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