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Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:37 pm
by Rosie2167
BC15NY wrote:Hey Rosie,

Here is a revised list for the 2008 Rays.

SP) Shields, Sonnanstine, Garza, Kazmir, Jackson
RP) Balfour, Howell, Miller, Wheeler, and 2012 Rodney (sub for Percival)

Add 2015 Archer and 1998 Arrojo (sub for Bradford and Longoria)

C) Navarro, Riggins
1b) 2003 Huff (sub for Pena)
2b) Iwamura
3b) Aybar
SS) Bartlett, 2005 Lugo (sub for Zobrist)
Of) Upton, Gross, Hinske, Ruggiano, 2005 Gomes, 2006 Baldelli (sub for Crawford and Floyd)
(Prefer the 2005, 2006 Gomes and Baldelli over their weak 2008 cards)

Thanks,
Bill

Heads up everyone, there were some minor changes that I worked with the ambassadors on to the TB Rays add that I neglected to post. Just wanted to get ahead of the release of those cards to mitigate the questions. tks!

No 1998 Arroyo, 2008 Carlos Pena instead
No 2005 Gomes, 2008 Gomes instead

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:25 pm
by BDWard
If somebody listed this player and year, I apologize, but if the goal is to add the best Rays cards, this would be one of them. Hopefully, the fact that he has a card for the 2008 Rays won't prevent this one from being added.

2009 Jason Bartlett, SS, Rays .320 14 66 .389 .490 .879 30 SBs. Career highs in virtually every major offensive category. Bartlett would complete the Rays infield. Good lead off man. SS 1e25.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/60/2009/1/20714

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:43 pm
by andycummings65
Bernie, I like a lot of the adds you suggested, and I feel the same way on most. On Bartlett, however, this card places him on par with Lloyd, Rollins, Trammell, Ozzie, Boudreau, Larkin, Dahlen and the like in the 7.5-6.5 range. IMO, his career does not deserve a card in this range, when he slashed .270 .336 .366 for his career.

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:19 pm
by FRANKMANSUETO
Why Carlos Pena when we have his best card? His 2008 card is not needed IMO.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/885/2008/1/20714

We get the 2008 Gomes where he batted a crisp .182?
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/420/2008/1/20714

I don't get it. What am I missing?

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:34 pm
by Rosie2167
FRANKMANSUETO wrote:Why Carlos Pena when we have his best card? His 2008 card is not needed IMO.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/885/2008/1/20714

We get the 2008 Gomes where he batted a crisp .182?
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/420/2008/1/20714

I don't get it. What am I missing?

Part of the reason to add whole teams was to get some low end guys, so thats why we went with the 2008 Gomes. As for Pena, heavy vR and will be at a lower price point than current card for platooning.

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:39 pm
by Rosie2167
andycummings65 wrote:Bernie, I like a lot of the adds you suggested, and I feel the same way on most. On Bartlett, however, this card places him on par with Lloyd, Rollins, Trammell, Ozzie, Boudreau, Larkin, Dahlen and the like in the 7.5-6.5 range. IMO, his career does not deserve a card in this range, when he slashed .270 .336 .366 for his career.

It's the constant challenge faced with adding to this set. Personally I've come to like the idea of having a card that reflects a guys career AND a card at his peak, as long as the sample size isn't anywhere near Gates Brown'ish. Makes for interesting roster choices especially in the franchise leagues you run Andy.

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:41 pm
by Rosie2167
It's official - The Tampa Bay Rays have their own grouping in the team pull down..much rejoicing!

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:43 pm
by BC15NY
Hoo-Ray!

The Rays need the 2009 Bartlett card to really be viable in a franchise league, in my opinion.

A James Shields upgrade to his 2011 card (AS, CYA-3, MVP-16) would help too.

As would another bat, such as 2005 Jonny Gomes (ROY-3).

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:48 pm
by STEVE F
I think Strat should just add these under represented franchises, rather than us having to waste 25 votes on a bunch of uninspiring cards.

Re: Rays additions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:20 pm
by BC15NY
STEVE F wrote:I think Strat should just add these under represented franchises, rather than us having to waste 25 votes on a bunch of uninspiring cards.


I agree that it would be awesome if Strat would add a world series team for Arizona, Colorado, and Florida (as they should have done for the Rays), rather than us having to vote them in.

However, even for non-Rays fans, we did get a few inspiring cards in the Rays add in my opinion, especially Fernando Rodney and Grant Balfour.

Since we get an extra 25 cards with one add, I don't really see it as a waste. And if you play at the lower caps at all, it is nice to get an influx of cheaper cards once in a while.