Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 10, 2018 1:15 pm

ratioman2 wrote:Do they have a separate Colorado only Gabe White? In 2000 he also pitched 18 innings for Cincinnati. Taylor Buchholz 2008 pitched for them the entire year and did very well, with a .95 whip and decent HR allowed in 66 innings.

Gabe actually pitched 1 inning for the Reds in 2000, you were looking at his ERA of 18.00!!! LOL That's probably why he was traded, HA
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostFri Aug 10, 2018 1:41 pm

Roster so far...
C- Yorvit Torrealba 2007 / no card / 443 PA / 323 obp / 699 ops / 2+0e1 / E
1B - Todd Helton* 2007 / 1 card (MBC) / 682 PA / 928 ops / 2e2 / 3R
2B - Kaz Matsui** 2007 / no card / 453 PA / 342 obp / 746 ops / 2e6 / 1R
3B - Garrett Atkins 2007 / no card / 684 PA / 853 ops / 4e15, 1b-4e30 / 3R
SS - Troy Tulowitzki 2007 / 1 card (MBC) / 682 PA / 838 ops / 2e12 / 2L
CF - Willy Taveras 2007 / no card / 408 PA / 367 obp / 748 ops / 2-3e8 / 1L
RF - Brad Hawpe* 2007 / no card / 606 PA / 387 obp / 926 ops / 4-3e7 / 5R
OF - Ryan Spilborghs 2007 /no card / 300 PA / 363 obp / 848 / RF/LF-3+0e3, CF 4 / 3L /good ying to Hawpe's yang
OF - Carlos Gonzalez* 2010 / no card
UT-2B,3B,SS,RF - Jamey Carroll 2007 / no card / 268 PA / 3167 obp / 616 ops / 2b-2e6,3b-3e47,SS-4e12,RF-4+2e16 / 2L
UT-1B,3B,RF,LF - Jeff Baker 2007 / no card / 159 PA / 296 obp / 643 ops / 1b-4e30,3b-4e18,RF/LF-4-1e4 / 3L
CF - Cory Sullivan* 2007 / no card / 153 PA / 336 obp / 721 ops / 2-1e1 / 2R
C - Joe Girardi 1993 / no card / 350 PA / 743 ops / 1L

SP - Jeff Francis 2006 or 2007?
SP - Aaron Cook 2008
SP - Marvin Freeman 1994
RP - Manny Corpas 2007
RP - Jorge Julio 2007
RP - Jeremy* Affeldt 2007
RP - Brian* Fuentes which yr?

that's 20

We need...
Bench guy - at least 1
SP - 1
RP - 2 or 3 depending on bench guys

To be determined...
SP, ranked by level of support from you guys in this thread (could definitely use more)
Jhoulys Chacin 2010
De La Rosa 2013

RP
LaTroy Hawkins 2007
Taylor Buchholz 2008
Steve Reed 1995
Huston Street 2009
Gave White 2000

Bench guys - need at least 1 more under $1mil...suggestions?
In reviewing Neifi Perez and Seth Smith it looks like they will end up well north of $1m

I'm going to submit the Rockies team to STRAT as soon as we get this done, not waiting for the rest of the 25 to get voted on. Yes I'm lagging on that, sorry.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSat Aug 11, 2018 1:00 pm

Drop Jorge Julio (2007/ $.53) and replace with Matt Herges (2007/ $3.69)
Herges : http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90249/2007/1/2007

Jeff Francis (2006)
Steve Reed would be my pick for another RP

Either Eric Young Jr (2011/ $.50) or Jonathan Herrera (2011/ $.91) as bench player

EY2: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90872/2011/1/2011
Herrera: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1359/2011/1/2011
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSat Aug 11, 2018 1:02 pm

rolandzeut wrote:Drop Jorge Julio (2007/ $.53) and replace with Matt Herges (2007/ $3.69)
Herges : http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90249/2007/1/2007

Jeff Francis (2006)
Steve Reed would be my pick for another RP

Either Eric Young Jr (2011/ $.50) or Jonathan Herrera (2011/ $.91) as bench player

EY2: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90872/2011/1/2011
Herrera: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1359/2011/1/2011

Herrera. Might actually get used.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSat Aug 11, 2018 1:22 pm

STEVE F wrote:
rolandzeut wrote:Drop Jorge Julio (2007/ $.53) and replace with Matt Herges (2007/ $3.69)
Herges : http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90249/2007/1/2007

Jeff Francis (2006)
Steve Reed would be my pick for another RP

Either Eric Young Jr (2011/ $.50) or Jonathan Herrera (2011/ $.91) as bench player

EY2: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90872/2011/1/2011
Herrera: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1359/2011/1/2011

Herrera. Might actually get used.


I like the Herrera card as the last bench player.
2006 Francis...
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostSun Aug 12, 2018 4:55 am

1995 Curt Leskanic-RP
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3483/1690/1/90

2010 Jhoulys Chacin-SP
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91312/2010/1/2010

Bench Players
2008 Scott Podsednik
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/917/2008/1/2008

As for Fuentes. If not the 2007 and you want to upgrade then use 2008. The 2007 season is what we have chosen and staying with that card keeps the team season concept intact. I'm good either way.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90192/2007/1/20714
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 5:39 pm

I would vote for Jeff Francis 2006 over 2007. Lower whip, much better hr ratio.
By a sight margin, I'd vote for 2013 Chacin over his other years.

Another starter could be Jimenez 2009. We have 2010 which is a better card than 2009, but 2009 Jimenez might be the second best Rockies starting season for over 150 innings. Good HR ratio
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 5:48 pm

Or new blood could be Jason Jennings 2006. 213 IP, 1.37 whip, decent hr ratio. A big yawner. I think we are best going with more relievers for the Rockies. It's hard to find usable starters. Just probably more of what we've got in the pool.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostTue Aug 14, 2018 9:47 am

Another new card add for Colorado would be the truly disappointing Mike Hampton. He made 124 million dollars in his career with a career whip of 1.42, finished 2nd in the Cy Young for the Astros, and had a career best 1.26 whip. The Rockies got him after two years with the Mets because he led the league two years in a row in HR allowed (in Shea). His two Rockies years were 1.58 and 1.79. Atrocious, but he's eating caviar and lounging in his mansion.
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Re: Rockies Team Franchise for 18.3...now we debate

PostThu Aug 16, 2018 5:32 pm

You know, Hampton's 2002 1.79 whip might be a valuable card, because he didn't relieve at all that year. It's so bad it might be priced as a .50 SP only card. That has value.
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