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fatigue levels

PostMon Jan 21, 2019 9:28 pm

trying to test my understanding of pitchers fatigue levels. so if i have my reliever set at f3 does this mean that he will be removed before his fatigue get below this level. or if i put him at f7 would he be removed on or before he reached f7? i would apprecaite the clarification
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Re: fatigue levels

PostMon Jan 21, 2019 10:01 pm

murf4 wrote:trying to test my understanding of pitchers fatigue levels. so if i have my reliever set at f3 does this mean that he will be removed before his fatigue get below this level. or if i put him at f7 would he be removed on or before he reached f7? i would apprecaite the clarification


He won't be relieved until he reaches that fatigue level. Many managers give an f-setting to all their pitchers and then wonder why HAL is so slow in using the bullpen properly.

TIP: Don't use a fatigue setting for most of your pitchers. (And for the few I do, I set it at F8.)
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Re: fatigue levels

PostMon Jan 21, 2019 10:20 pm

Thanks for the response. and generally speaking i only do this for one or two pictures. my better relievers the rest i leave blank , the same with the roles , usually leaving 2 without designations, figuring hal will use them were he wants to instead of forcing the wrong pitcher into a situation, that is undesirable
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Re: fatigue levels

PostSat Jan 26, 2019 9:30 am

coyote303 wrote:TIP: Don't use a fatigue setting for most of your pitchers. (And for the few I do, I set it at F8.)


What the reasoning behind your tip, Coyote303? I'd just like to know why this is a good idea.
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Re: fatigue levels

PostTue Jan 29, 2019 12:24 am

Parke wrote:
coyote303 wrote:TIP: Don't use a fatigue setting for most of your pitchers. (And for the few I do, I set it at F8.)


What the reasoning behind your tip, Coyote303? I'd just like to know why this is a good idea.


If you set a fatigue level to say F7 for a run-of-the-mill starter, HAL will not bring in your ace reliever until the starter hits F7 fatigue level. This will occur often after many runs are given up and the game has been decided. Now, if you have really good starters and no good relievers, by all means give the starters F-settings because you don't want your bullpen used unless absolutely necessary.

Essentially overusing F-settings hamstrings HAL's ability to use your bullpen effectively and forces pitchers to stay in longer than you probably would like.
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Re: fatigue levels

PostTue Nov 19, 2019 11:34 pm

coyote303 wrote:
Parke wrote:
coyote303 wrote:TIP: Don't use a fatigue setting for most of your pitchers. (And for the few I do, I set it at F8.)


What the reasoning behind your tip, Coyote303? I'd just like to know why this is a good idea.


If you set a fatigue level to say F7 for a run-of-the-mill starter, HAL will not bring in your ace reliever until the starter hits F7 fatigue level. This will occur often after many runs are given up and the game has been decided. Now, if you have really good starters and no good relievers, by all means give the starters F-settings because you don't want your bullpen used unless absolutely necessary.

Essentially overusing F-settings hamstrings HAL's ability to use your bullpen effectively and forces pitchers to stay in longer than you probably would like.


Coyote. I want to elaborate some instances where setting fatigue levels for some starters may be beneficial. I have been experimenting with this all season. I have three top notch starters in my 2018 team (Sale. Buehler, and Bauer) one above average starter (Gant) and a rin of the mill 5th starter (Miley). I have one very good reliever, Hughes, that I have set at both set up and closer, with a "regular" setting for closer. I have for middle Chaflin and Suero to take up innings. My last 3 are Jackin a 2 reliever worth .55 and two .5 righty and lefty specialists. I have tried the "conservative" setting with no F ratings for my great starters. What I have found is that HAL does leave those big three in for quite a few complete games. After 66 games Hughes has only 7 saves (38-28 record
). The problem is that when HAL does use my .5 specialists, because of the conservative relief setting, he leaves them in too long, facing a lefty or righty when they should never do so. I have decided to set the big three at at F2 and Gant at F6, and they the relief use at normal.

I will tell you how it works over the next 30 games. Here is my team in case you (Coyote or anyone else) want to take a look a look. I appreciate any feedback or any theories you want to offer. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1527990

Gracias.
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Re: fatigue levels

PostThu Nov 21, 2019 2:26 pm

elpasopesos, I would also give an F-rating for your top three starters. I don't know that I would go all the way down to F2, but that's splitting hairs.

I'm surprised your closer only has a C2 rating. However, he's doing well, so what do I know! I agree with you F-rating for him as well.
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Re: fatigue levels

PostSat Nov 23, 2019 6:04 pm

coyote303 wrote:elpasopesos, I would also give an F-rating for your top three starters. I don't know that I would go all the way down to F2, but that's splitting hairs.

I'm surprised your closer only has a C2 rating. However, he's doing well, so what do I know! I agree with you F-rating for him as well.


Coyote great suggestion for my R2/C2 closer. He either comes in as set up or relieved for a few outs in the ninth.

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