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tmfw30

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pitcher hitting

PostThu Aug 11, 2016 2:53 pm

just wondering if anyone else spends any intellectual or emotional energy thinking about pitchers' hitting ability in non-dh leagues.

i have an aversion to 1W pitchers in those leagues and usually place at least a little value on finding pitchers that can hit. i've had a staff bat .219 with 4hr and .239 with 3hr in seasons where i lost in the finals and won the championship, respectively, but i'm not sure my success had anything to do with that. any thoughts?

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Re: pitcher hitting

PostThu Aug 11, 2016 6:12 pm

One way you could measure your success is by calculating the run value generated by the hitting of your pitchers, with the following formulas:

Offensive Runs= 0.33*W + 0.47*1B + 0.78*2B +1.09*3B + 1.44*HR - 0.1*(AB-H)

Then you deduce the earned runs allowed by the offensive runs generated by the pitchers (or add up if the offensive runs total is negative)

Earned Runs - offense Runs = Earned Runs adjusted value, which you could then transform in a new adjusted ERA

Foster' ERA = 3.18; Foster adjustedERA= 3.29
Wilson's ERA= 4.81 Wilson's adjustedERA= 4.43

Despite Wilson's splendid offensive season and Foster's horrible offensive season, it seems like Foster was the MVP in that pitching squad ;-)
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Re: pitcher hitting

PostFri Aug 12, 2016 7:42 pm

Thanks for a fascinating analysis!

By that measure, Foster's pitching was superior enough to make him more valuable despite Wilson's hitting, but giving Wilson ~.4 runs per 9 would be a significant advantage over a pitcher with similar pitching results who couldn't hit. On the other hand, Wilson's .300-.338.-414 was clearly some small-sample-size-overperformance on his part, so the advantage would typically much more modest.
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Re: pitcher hitting

PostThu Aug 27, 2020 2:48 am

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Re: pitcher hitting

PostWed Sep 09, 2020 1:30 pm

Don’t know how this randomly got bumped up but what a blast from the past! Look at me, a brand new player in 2016 asking questions about pitchers hitting. Adorable!

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