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Re: Strategy Forum/Newbie Advice Thread

PostFri Mar 15, 2013 12:24 pm

DeanTSC's excellent paper on offense vs. defense, and the run production model:

http://www.mfooz.com/bblog/wp-content/u ... efense.pdf
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PostFri Mar 22, 2013 3:19 pm

Thanks for the good reading. Are these strategies best for 12 or 24 team league? Or does it matter? Which do you guys prefer playing in and why?
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PostSat Mar 23, 2013 8:54 pm

Any advice on what parts of the pitcher preferences to use?

Seems like you can enter too many roles and Hal just gives up and uses the worst pitchers.
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PostTue Mar 26, 2013 12:16 pm

bertolett wrote:Any advice on what parts of the pitcher preferences to use?

Seems like you can enter too many roles and Hal just gives up and uses the worst pitchers.


Post a link to a team and I will tell you how I would have it set.

you have to use some logic that is easy for the computer to follow, otherwise it will just fail. You have to give it enough options, otherwise things will fall apart quickly.

For instance if you have only 1 RP set and mopup and middle man, and he is knocked around or used 2 days in a row, who will pitch? You really have to give enough settings to cover all your bases. That's why I always have at least 5 RP, sometimes more, to give the computer enough options that they can be used right.
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PostSun Apr 28, 2013 10:30 am

Dumb question:

Do relievers need rest? If my R2 pitches 2 innings, is he good to go the next game?
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Re: Strategy Forum/Newbie Advice Thread

PostSun Apr 28, 2013 11:53 am

bertolett wrote:Do relievers need rest? If my R2 pitches 2 innings, is he good to go the next game?


From the game rules:

27.64 Relief pitchers cannot be used more than two straight days. After pitching two straight days, he must rest at least one day.

Exceptions occur though.
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Re: Strategy Forum/Newbie Advice Thread

PostThu May 02, 2013 4:14 pm

One article in the playing tips section stated that in the playoffs you should save your best non-asterisk starter for game 3. I don't understand the logic in that. Could someone elaborate? here is the quote:

"A strategy often overseen, though, for teams whose rotation mostly relies on RELIEVERS , is to have, other things being equal, your best non *SP for the third game, in case your relievers were used for both game 1 and 2. If such a thing happen, then you'll be able to set your best pitcher appropriately for game 3. Furthermore, he will still be available for games 2 and 7 in the Finals. And even if you don't use your best relievers in the first two games, your best starter might give a very beneficial complete game in game 3, so that your relievers get the call for both game 4 and 5. "
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Re: Strategy Forum/Newbie Advice Thread

PostFri May 03, 2013 2:01 pm

STEVE F wrote:One article in the playing tips section stated that in the playoffs you should save your best non-asterisk starter for game 3. I don't understand the logic in that. Could someone elaborate? here is the quote:

"A strategy often overseen, though, for teams whose rotation mostly relies on RELIEVERS , is to have, other things being equal, your best non *SP for the third game, in case your relievers were used for both game 1 and 2. If such a thing happen, then you'll be able to set your best pitcher appropriately for game 3. Furthermore, he will still be available for games 2 and 7 in the Finals. And even if you don't use your best relievers in the first two games, your best starter might give a very beneficial complete game in game 3, so that your relievers get the call for both game 4 and 5. "


Sorry you had to post this question twice, Steve. I will try to answer questions like this when I am able to, if someone else doesn't get to it first.

Answer - this post was written when the semi-finals were best of 5 series. The semi's have been best of 7 series for a while now. But when they were best of 5 series, in order to have a non * SP available for 2 games in the finals (e.g. game 2 and game 7), he had to start no later than game 3 of the best of 5 semi-finals:

Game 3 - Non* SP pitches
Rest days - game 4, game 5, rest day between series, game 1 of finals.
And then the same non* SP pitcher is good to pitch again in game 2 of the finals.

If you had started that good Non* SP pitcher in games 4 or 5 of the best of 5 semi's, then he would not have been available until game 3 or 4 of the finals, and so would be limited to only 1 start in the finals.

This relief pitcher strategy made great sense in a best of 5 series - e.g.:

Games 1 & 2 - lots of good relief pitching
Game 3 - long start by a good non* SP starter, and rest your bullpen so they're fresh for game 4 of semi's
Games 4 & 5 - lots of relief pitching
Rest day
And again your relief pitchers are ready to go for game 1 of the finals.

This strategy is less relevant now that the semi's are a best of 7 series as well. What's interesting about the back-to-back 7 game series is that if you have to use your best non*SP starters in games 6 or 7 of the semi's, then they can only pitch once in the finals - unless you can win the semi's more quickly and avoid either the 6th or 7th game.

If you have a primarily *SP staff, where they can pitch after 3 days rest, then you can have your best *SP start in games 1 and 5 of the semi's, and games 1 and 5 of the finals. Your next best * SP can start in games 2 and 6 of both semi's and finals. Your third best SP* can start in games 3 and 7 of both series. So the back to back 7 game series may influence your choice of starting 4 SP's* for winning playoffs - e.g. maybe 3 strong starters and 1 not so strong, since the 4th starter will likely only start once in each 7 game series.

The original advice could still be relevant if you have a best of 5 series - for example, in the first playoff round in a 24 team league, which is still a best of 5 series. But even then, if your non* SP starts in game 3 of the first playoff series, he will get to start twice in the semi's, but only once in the finals.

In a 24 team league playoff, you basically have to choose whether your non* SP will start twice in the semi's, or twice in the finals, since he can't do both of those things. No matter what, though, he can't start more than 4 times in the entire playoffs. Interestingly, a stud *SP could start 6 times in the playoffs - games 1 and 5 of the quarter final round, and games 3 and 7 of each succeeding round - but only if all series went the maximum games!
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