"steal more" setting?

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JohnHeff

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"steal more" setting?

PostFri Aug 28, 2020 8:57 am

Does anybody know if the "steal more" setting for hitters...
A) just increases the frequency of that runner TRYING to get the good lead/jump & his higher steal score before stealing
B) Attempts more steals whether the runner gets his optimal "lead/jump" or not
C) Still requires a probable success rate in sending the runner
D) Any/all of the above?

For instance, if a runner needs a 2 to get his optimal jump and an 18 steal rating -- but only has an 8 steal rating without the jump -- will "steal more" cause him to try low % steal attempts even when he doesn't get the good lead/jump benefit?
If anybody knows for sure, I'd be grateful to know too.Thanks!
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostSat Aug 29, 2020 12:08 pm

I don't use steal more very often but I think it lets Hal take more risks overall, like trying to steal third too often.
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostMon Aug 31, 2020 7:57 pm

Thanks, that sounds about right as I have had/seen some runners being thrown out trying to steal third when it didn't make a lot of sense to even try that.
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostThu Sep 03, 2020 10:32 pm

Yeah, I see a lot of illogical attempts to steal third even without Steal More set. It would be nice if you can specify 2nd and 3rd aggressiveness separately.
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostTue Mar 23, 2021 12:09 pm

I never use the Steal More setting. When I did, I started having C stealers stealing home, probably on a 1-2 chance. Unless it was a Never Steal runner like Sherm Lollar, it was steal much too often.
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostWed Dec 01, 2021 9:45 pm

I have been doing SOM C&D since 1967. I have been on and off for a few years now. I have been doing at least 7 games a week for the last 3 years or so.
I have implemented a new system for stealing.
Below is the chart I use for a good lead.
Roll D6. If a hitter has a 10 or lower Run rating he has no chance to seal.
Rating is 11, he needs a 6 to try to steal.
Rating is 12-13, he needs a 5 or 6 to steal.
Rating is 14-15, he needs a 4,5,6 to steal
Rating is 16-17, he needs a 3,4,5,6 to steal
A 1or 2 has no steal chance.
Seems to work out really well otherwise I would be doing very little stealing
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostWed Mar 30, 2022 2:53 pm

I use Steal More all the time, and I set the base stealing to Aggressive. I tried Very Aggressive with a team, and it produced more outs ratio than before- but that is the only way you get big totals. I am not sure of the exact percentages that are changed.

I would advise to choose Do Not Steal for each runner that has a low chance, in Hitters Preferences. This will keep your C runners from trying to steal home, etc.. I have actually never seen the computer steal home.

HAL reacts very well to Aggressive base running and stealing. I use Steal More on my guys who get 19 or 20 leads. 16,17,18 leads, I leave unchecked and let the computer decide.

Hope this helps broski
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STEVENSTEFFANNI

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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostWed Mar 30, 2022 5:07 pm

Hal does like to have runners tag up from second..I swear when that happens the runner is always thrown out
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Re: "steal more" setting?

PostTue Apr 26, 2022 11:21 am

I build a lot of speed teams and always use the same settings unless I am trying to break a record or win a contest.

I set my "good" base stealers (which is usually the entire team) for "Steal More". Then I set the Team Stealing setting to "Conservative" this reduces the number of attempts to steal 3rd and home from my experience. The overwhelming majority of the time, I lead the league in both steals and steal success % (which is typically between 75%-80%).

For base running, with a speed team (all 16's or better for example), I ALWAYS select "Very Aggressive" baserunning and my team takes a TON of extra bases over the course of a season.

Here's a good example:

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/misc/1657022
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/league/st ... son/457320

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