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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 10:22 pm

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W


Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: ???????? (105 or 100 Mil)

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick



Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy,
*(4) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan,
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(4) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(4) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R.Clemens,
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11-12 (TBD)

Dacelo (91-71)
Mr. BBW (93-69)

Mark & Tyson left to lose a "Steal Pick"

Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily

**Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 10:28 pm

My apologies, guys. I'm having a hip replaced next Tuesday and between pre-surgery appointments and visiting kids and grandkids, I've fallen into a lot of common sense lapses. Tom

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W

Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: ???????? (105 or 100 Mil)

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick


Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy,
*(4) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan,
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(3) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(3) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R. Clemens, T. Keefe, N. Charlton, W. Boggs
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11-12 (TBD)

Dacelo (91-71)
Mr. BBW (93-69)

Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily

Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 10:36 pm

My apologies, guys. I'm having a hip replaced next Tuesday and between pre-surgery appointments and visiting kids and grandkids, I've fallen into a lot of common sense lapses. Tom

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W


Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: ???????? (105 or 100 Mil)

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick



Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy,
*(4) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan,
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(4) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(4) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R.Clemens,
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11. Mr. BBW (93-69)
12. Dacelo (91-71)

Mr. BBW for "Steal" Pick
Mark & Tyson left to lose a "Steal Pick"


Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily
Bontomn having hip surgery Tuesday 8/21/18


**Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostTue Aug 14, 2018 7:52 pm

My apologies, guys. I'm having a hip replaced next Tuesday and between pre-surgery appointments and visiting kids and grandkids, I've fallen into a lot of common sense lapses. Tom

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W

Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: ???????? (105 or 100 Mil)

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick


Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy,
*(4) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan, Tiant, Lopez, Youngs
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(4) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(4) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R.Clemens,
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11. Mr. BBW (93-69)
12. Dacelo (91-71)

Mr. BBW for "Steal" Pick
Mark & Tyson left to lose a "Steal Pick"

Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily
Bontomn having hip surgery Tuesday 8/21/18

**Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostTue Aug 14, 2018 8:03 pm

Liking the outcome of this season, we will stay with a $105,000,000 cap.

- Jim
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostTue Aug 14, 2018 8:17 pm

My apologies, guys. I'm having a hip replaced next Tuesday and between pre-surgery appointments and visiting kids and grandkids, I've fallen into a lot of common sense lapses. Tom

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W


Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: 105 Mil

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick



Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy,
*(7) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan, L.Tiant, A.Lopez, R.Youngs,
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(4) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(4) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R.Clemens,
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11. Mr. BBW (93-69)
12. Dacelo (91-71)

Mr. BBW for "Steal" Pick
Mark & Tyson left to lose a "Steal Pick"


Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily
Bontomn having hip surgery Tuesday 8/21/18


**Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostTue Aug 14, 2018 9:31 pm

Diamond dope draft is created and ready pending the last keeper picks. I set it for $140 mil. So that cap issues should not be in play. You can enter you picks (Keepers first) and turn on proxies now. I will suggest that Mark list Hornsby as one of his Keepers - Larry shouldn't- to keep our rounds even and on track.

Tom, I hope the knee replacement goes as easily as possible.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostWed Aug 15, 2018 6:21 am

Tom, I hope your surgery goes smoothly and that you have a full and swift recovery.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostWed Aug 15, 2018 4:32 pm

My apologies, guys. I'm having a hip replaced next Tuesday and between pre-surgery appointments and visiting kids and grandkids, I've fallen into a lot of common sense lapses. Tom

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W


Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: 105 Mil

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick



Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy,
*(7) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan, L.Tiant, A.Lopez, R.Youngs,
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(4) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(4) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R.Clemens,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,

* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11. Mr. BBW (93-69)
12. Dacelo (91-71)

Mr. BBW for "Steal" Pick
Mark & Tyson left to lose a "Steal Pick"
13 Baseballs, madmike, Doc Hackra, & bontomn can name 2nd set of Keepers


Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily
Bontomn having hip surgery Tuesday 8/21/18


**Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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Re: SBDL Discussion

PostWed Aug 15, 2018 7:34 pm

My apologies, guys. I'm having a hip replaced next Tuesday and between pre-surgery appointments and visiting kids and grandkids, I've fallen into a lot of common sense lapses. Tom

Eligible Letters for Season 52
Hitters : A, B, D, F, I, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, V
Pitchers : A, B, C, D, F, I, K, N, O, Q, R, T, W

Retired letters for season 52 are GOWHEUZY hitters and HEZJUMPVY GL pitchers

Salary Cap: 105 Mil

Trades:
Trade #1 BunezO Trades R.Hornsby, plus Pick 3, & Pick 4
ModMark Trades A.Simmons, plus Pick 3, & Steal Pick


Keepers:
(3) ModMark: A.Rosen, J.Medwick, A.Simmons,
*(4)13 Baseballs: C.Kershaw, R.Johnson, E.Mathews, J.Foxx,
*(4) madmike: G.Sisler, N.Lajoie, H.Wilhelm, H.Duffy, H. RIce, T Fox, M. Davis
*(7) Andy C: J.Bagwell, T.Davis, S.Koufax, J.Morgan, L.Tiant, A.Lopez, R.Youngs,
*(7) Joeoc: M.Mantle, L.Appling, J.Vidro, M.Ott, S.Leever, G.Lucas, B.J. Ryan,
*(8) bunezO; J.Gibson, R.Hornsby, H.Aaron, J.Pineiro, W.Johnson, V.Gregg, R.Duren, R.Ashburn,
(4) Tyson: Dut.Leonard, T.Speaker, F.Lindstrom, S.Carlton,
*(4) hackra: S.Musial, P.Alexander, L.Walker, L.Arroyo,
*(7) MunichMan: B.Ruth. J.Beckwith, E.Delahanty, R.Alomar, E.Reulbach, J.Kaat, J.Konstanty.
*(4) bontomn: Ba.Bonds, L.Gehrig, J.Dimaggio, R.Clemens,
*(3) Mr. BBW: P.Martinez, A.Vaughn, G.Brett
*(3) dacelo: G.Maddux, L.Bowa, W.Mays,

* Lost Steal Player

Draft / Steal Order (Pending Review)
1. modMark (71-91) (3-6 vs Mayhem)(bunezO- Steal)) - J.Pineiro from Joeoc
2. 13 Baseballs (71-91)(6-3 vs Hammers)-J.Foxx from MunichMan
3. madmike (72-90)- H. Duffy from Dacelo
4. Andy C (75-87) - Joe Morgan from MrBBW
5. Joeoc (76-86)- M.Ott from Doc Hackra ;)
6. bunzeO (81-81)(2-7 vs Pompeii)- W.Johnson from bontomn
7. Tyson (81-81) (7-2 vs Righetti)- S.Carlton from madmike
8. hackra (88-74)- Luis Arroyo from Bunze0
9. Munich_Man (90-72)- R. Alomar from Andy
10. bontomn (83-79)- R. Clemens from 13baseballs
11. Mr. BBW (93-69)
12. Dacelo (91-71)

Mr. BBW for "Steal" Pick
Mark & Tyson left to lose a "Steal Pick"
13 Baseballs, Doc Hackra, & bontomn can name 2nd set of Keepers

Joeoc traveling 8/11 thru 8/19, will check daily
Bontomn having hip surgery Tuesday 8/21/18

**Please note that Bunze0 may have 8 keepers as he traded for Modmark's steal selection. Mark only gets a max of 6 keepers.
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