SBDL Discussion

Eligible Letters for Season 49
Hitters (18): A, B, D, E, F, G, I, K, L, M, O, P, Q, S, U, W, Z
Pitchers (10): C, D, F, G, I, K, L, O, R, T

League Salary Cap : ??????????????

Trades:
Trade #1: BunzeO trades G.Maddux, E.Mathews, to Dacelo for R.Hornsby


Keepers:
(3) ModMark - R.Ford, R.Kiner, M.Williams, H.Heilmann,
(3) Tyson - D.Leonard, C.Fisk, A.Kaline, Z.Greinke,
(3) bunzeO - R.Hornsby, H.Duffy, R.Johnson, W. Johnson
*(3) dacelo - W.Mays, G.Maddux, E.Mathews, B. Rogan, L. Bowa, A, Joss, B. Hamilton
(3) 13 Baseballs - M.Piazza, B.Myer, R.Ashburn
(3) Mr. BBW - P.Martinez, J.Piniero, M.McGwire,
(3) madmike - H.Wagner, N Lajoie, J.Gibson,
(3) Joeoc - L.Appling, M.Mantle, W.McCovey,
*(3) bontomn - Ba.Bonds, J.Dimaggio, S.Musial,
*(3) hackra - L.Gehrig, T.Keefe, D.McMahon,
(3) Munich_Man - B.Ruth, E.Delahanty, J.Beckwith,
*(3) Andy C - L.Tiant, S.Koufax, J.Bagwell,
* Lost Steal Player

bontomn traveling through December 20th, spotty internet access.
hackra traveling Dec 13-22, will likely have limited/phone access some of those days

Steal order: Steal Round Can Begin
1) modmark - H.Heilmann from AndyC
2) kiltcson - Z.Greinke from dacelo
3) Bunze0 - W. Johnson from bontomn
4) Dacelo - BJ Rogan from hackra
5) 13 baseballs - (by tie-breaker #2 - worst division record - also had worse run differential)
6) Mr Baseball World -
7) madmike - (by tiebreaker - worst head-t-head against the Ghosts)
8) joeoc -
9) Munich_Man -
10) AndyC -
11-12) TBD by Finals---Liberals vs Polos

Eligible Letters for Season 49
Hitters (18): A, B, D, E, F, G, I, K, L, M, O, P, Q, S, U, W, Z
Pitchers (10): C, D, F, G, I, K, L, O, R, T

League Salary Cap : ??????????????

Trades:
Trade #1: BunzeO trades G.Maddux, E.Mathews, to Dacelo for R.Hornsby


Keepers:
(3) ModMark - R.Ford, R.Kiner, M.Williams, H.Heilmann,
(3) Tyson - D.Leonard, C.Fisk, A.Kaline, Z.Greinke,
*(3) bunzeO - R.Hornsby, H.Duffy, R.Johnson, W. Johnson
*(3) dacelo - W.Mays, G.Maddux, E.Mathews, B. Rogan, L. Bowa, A, Joss, B. Hamilton
(3) 13 Baseballs - M.Piazza, B.Myer, R.Ashburn, G.Maddux,
(3) Mr. BBW - P.Martinez, J.Piniero, M.McGwire,
(3) madmike - H.Wagner, N Lajoie, J.Gibson,
(3) Joeoc - L.Appling, M.Mantle, W.McCovey,
*(3) bontomn - Ba.Bonds, J.Dimaggio, S.Musial,
*(3) hackra - L.Gehrig, T.Keefe, D.McMahon,
(3) Munich_Man - B.Ruth, E.Delahanty, J.Beckwith,
*(3) Andy C - L.Tiant, S.Koufax, J.Bagwell,
* Lost Steal Player

bontomn traveling through December 20th, spotty internet access.
hackra traveling Dec 13-22, will likely have limited/phone access some of those days

Steal order: Steal Round Can Begin
1) modmark - H.Heilmann from AndyC
2) kiltcson - Z.Greinke from dacelo
3) Bunze0 - W. Johnson from bontomn
4) Dacelo - BJ Rogan from hackra
5) 13 baseballs - G. Maddux - Bunze0
6) Mr Baseball World -
7) madmike - (by tiebreaker - worst head-t-head against the Ghosts)
8) joeoc -
9) Munich_Man -
10) AndyC -
11-12) TBD by Finals---Liberals vs Polos

Greg Maddux was traded to Dacelo and is therefore one of Dacelo's keepers.

Also, I need to make a commissioner's correction.
Bunze0 made a 2 keeper for 1 keeper trade to get Hornsby.
He DOES NOT get to name Randy Johnson as his 4th presteal keeper.
Dacelo however, may add an additional keeper if he wishes...having made a devils bargain and traded 1 guy for 2. Mays plus Hornsby are just 2 of his 3 keepers to start
(You have to have designated your keepers before you can trade them)


and Chris get to repick his steal choice

Eligible Letters for Season 49
Hitters (18): A, B, D, E, F, G, I, K, L, M, O, P, Q, S, U, W, Z
Pitchers (10): C, D, F, G, I, K, L, O, R, T

League Salary Cap : ??????????????

Trades:
Trade #1: BunzeO trades G.Maddux, E.Mathews, to Dacelo for R.Hornsby


Keepers:
(3) ModMark - R.Ford, R.Kiner, M.Williams, H.Heilmann,
(3) Tyson - D.Leonard, C.Fisk, A.Kaline, Z.Greinke,
(3) bunzeO - R.Hornsby, H.Duffy, W. Johnson
*(3) dacelo - W.Mays, G.Maddux, E.Mathews, B. Rogan, L. Bowa, A, Joss, B. Hamilton
(3) 13 Baseballs - M.Piazza, B.Myer, R.Ashburn
(3) Mr. BBW - P.Martinez, J.Piniero, M.McGwire,
(3) madmike - H.Wagner, N Lajoie, J.Gibson,
(3) Joeoc - L.Appling, M.Mantle, W.McCovey,
*(3) bontomn - Ba.Bonds, J.Dimaggio, S.Musial,
*(3) hackra - L.Gehrig, T.Keefe, D.McMahon,
(3) Munich_Man - B.Ruth, E.Delahanty, J.Beckwith,
*(3) Andy C - L.Tiant, S.Koufax, J.Bagwell,
* Lost Steal Player

bontomn traveling through December 20th, spotty internet access.
hackra traveling Dec 13-22, will likely have limited/phone access some of those days

Steal order: Steal Round Can Begin
1) modmark - H.Heilmann from AndyC
2) kiltcson - Z.Greinke from dacelo
3) Bunze0 - W. Johnson from bontomn
4) Dacelo - BJ Rogan from hackra
5) 13 baseballs - (by tie-breaker #2 - worst division record - also had worse run differential)
6) Mr Baseball World -
7) madmike - (by tiebreaker - worst head-t-head against the Ghosts)
8) joeoc -
9) Munich_Man -
10) AndyC -
11-12) TBD by Finals---Liberals vs Polos

Eligible Letters for Season 49
Hitters (18): A, B, D, E, F, G, I, K, L, M, O, P, Q, S, U, W, Z
Pitchers (10): C, D, F, G, I, K, L, O, R, T

League Salary Cap : ??????????????

Trades:
Trade #1: BunzeO trades G.Maddux, E.Mathews, to Dacelo for R.Hornsby


Keepers:
(3) ModMark - R.Ford, R.Kiner, M.Williams, H.Heilmann,
(3) Tyson - D.Leonard, C.Fisk, A.Kaline, Z.Greinke,
(3) bunzeO - R.Hornsby, H.Duffy, W. Johnson
*(3) dacelo - W.Mays, G.Maddux, E.Mathews, B. Rogan, L. Bowa, A, Joss, B. Hamilton
(3) 13 Baseballs - M.Piazza, B.Myer, R.Ashburn
(3) Mr. BBW - P.Martinez, J.Piniero, M.McGwire,
(3) madmike - H.Wagner, N Lajoie, J.Gibson,
(3) Joeoc - L.Appling, M.Mantle, W.McCovey,
*(3) bontomn - Ba.Bonds, J.Dimaggio, S.Musial,
*(3) hackra - L.Gehrig, T.Keefe, D.McMahon,
(3) Munich_Man - B.Ruth, E.Delahanty, J.Beckwith,
*(3) Andy C - L.Tiant, S.Koufax, J.Bagwell, McDowell, Morgan, Garciparra
* Lost Steal Player

bontomn traveling through December 20th, spotty internet access.
hackra traveling Dec 13-22, will likely have limited/phone access some of those days

Steal order: Steal Round Can Begin
1) modmark - H.Heilmann from AndyC
2) kiltcson - Z.Greinke from dacelo
3) Bunze0 - W. Johnson from bontomn
4) Dacelo - BJ Rogan from hackra
5) 13 baseballs - (by tie-breaker #2 - worst division record - also had worse run differential)
6) Mr Baseball World -
7) madmike - (by tiebreaker - worst head-t-head against the Ghosts)
8) joeoc -
9) Munich_Man -
10) AndyC -
11-12) TBD by Finals---Liberals vs Polos

Just for Everyone's Clarification -- Doc Hackra should approve this before any changes are made

Keepers should read:
(3) bunzeO - G.Maddux, E.Mathews, H.Duffy, W. Johnson,
*(3) dacelo - W.Mays, R.Hornsby, ??????, B. Rogan, L. Bowa, A, Joss, B. Hamilton

At end of Keeper Round or end of the Draft ----Need Clarification
Trade between bunzeO and dacelo will be finalized
With Hornsby moving to bunzeO's squad
and
Mathews and Maddux moving to dacelo's squad
Actually this question really answers the questions below if the trade is finalize at the end of the draft.


While dacelo can add a keeper now
Does dacelo lose a pick later ---------Need Clarification
Not sure since this is a two for one if dacelo forfeits his 6th draft pick
to keep 13 picks for everyone.
Does bunzeO have to put a filler pick to end up with 13 picks? --Need Clarification

just trying to clarify for everyone, I'm good with whatever is decided

I would say the trade is not finalized until after the Keepers are named. Dacelo gets 6 Keepers, but trades 1 for 2 of Bunze0s. So at the end of the second keeper phase he will have 7 players plus a Steal. He still gets all of his draft picks.

Bunze0 gets 6 Keepers but trades away 2 for 1. At the end of the second keeper round he only has 5 players plus a steal. He still only gets 6 draft picks.

Uneven numbers because of a 2-1 trade.

Also these 2 can't make any more trades involving Keepers until after game 6 of the season (they could if they wish still trade draft picks or drafted players)

In the Diamond Dope draft, Bunze0 should add Maddox and Mathews while Dacelo adds Hornsby. In the autodraft, they will instead add the players they traded for. That will keep the Dope draft even.

So, is Randy Johnson available to steal... if so, he is my man...

To keep things even and simpler to manage, Larry and I have amended our trade to include Mark Clear. The trade is now Maddux and Matthews for Hornsby and Clear. I will add Clear as my 6th keeper.

- Jim