Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 1:27 pm

Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 2:13 pm

teamnasty wrote:Puk is ineligible to be drafted as a prospect for the same reason Karinchak is ineligible; they debuted in the majors before the 2020 season. Players like those guys who debuted before 2020 are ineligible as prospects, and they are ineligible to be drafted as FA's because they pitched less than 30 innings in 2020. So, they can only be drafted this year in the supplemental draft that occurs between our two simulated 2020 seasons.


I don't think players like Puk, Rosenthal etc. will be eligible for supplemental free agency either. It's still going to be the 2020 free agents that didn't get signed that we will be bidding on with the same thresholds in place. They won't be eligible till next January free agency and only if they meet the 30IP/50AB in 2021. That's my understanding of it.
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 2:29 pm

I disagree. There is no 30 IP/50 PA minimum in Rule 11.04 which says that all uncarded players are eligible for the supplemental FA draft (not unleashed cards, regular set). Compare that with the winter FA draft, which does include those playing time minimums. I also believe that Phil has addressed this point in previous threads, so I'll let him weigh in here. But the rules as worded do not prevent guys like Puk and Karinchak from being selected in the supplemental FA draft.
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 2:57 pm

teamnasty wrote:I disagree. There is no 30 IP/50 PA minimum in Rule 11.04 which says that all uncarded players are eligible for the supplemental FA draft (not unleashed cards, regular set). Compare that with the winter FA draft, which does include those playing time minimums. I also believe that Phil has addressed this point in previous threads, so I'll let him weigh in here. But the rules as worded do not prevent guys like Puk and Karinchak from being selected in the supplemental FA draft.


You could be right on Rosenthal and Karinchak though why they would be ineligible for winter free agency because of thresholds and then not be held to those thresholds in the supplemental makes no sense to me but I'll let Phil decide on that. But 11.04 says uncarded and unleashed players are ineligible for supplemental free agency so Puk is not available.
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 3:12 pm

Yes, if Puk winds up not being carded in the set then he's unavailable for the supplemental. I have to assume karinchak will be carded as he pitched 27 innings, or the equivalent of a 73 inning prorated season.
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread
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Round 1:

1 mykbr1 -- Ke'Bryan Hayes, 3B, Pitt
2 dharmabums -- Spencer Torkelson 3B/1B Detroit
3 chilliards --Francisco Alvarez C NY Mets
4 paul j kiggins --Lacy, Asa SP KC
5 baseball cfo -- Austin Martin SS Toronto
6 madal-- Jake Cronenworth, 2B SD
7 oldmansmith2-- Max Meyer SP MIA
8 teamnasty --Victor Gonzalez RP-LAD
9 beesore -- Kristian Robinson OF Ari
10 madal (via Paul_Long71) -- Tristan McKenzie SP CLE
11 Evil Spock -- Drew Waters OF ATL
12 sociophil -- Nick Gonzales 2b PIT

Round 2:

1 mykbr1 -- Heston Kjerstad, OF, Balt
2 dharmabums -- Daniel Lynch SP KC
3 chilliards --Nick Lodolo SP CIN
4 paul j kiggins --Emerson Hancock SP SEA
5 baseball cfo -- Josiah Gray SP LAD
6 madal-- Garrett Crochet RP CWS
7 oldmansmith2-- Corbin Carroll OF ARI
8 teamnasty -- Nolan Gorman 3b STL
9 beesore -- Jordan Groshans SS TOR
10 Paul_Long71 -- Cristian Javier SP Hou (repick)
11 Evil Spock -- Triston Casas 1b BOS
12 sociophil -- Campusano, Luis C SPD

Round 3:

1 mykbr1 -- AJ Puk, SP, Oak --------- REPICK------- TIMED OUT
2 dharmabums --ON THE CLOCK 11:19 am till 2:19 pm est...TIMED OUT
3 chilliards --ON THE CLOCK TILL 5:19 pm est
4 paul j kiggins --
5 baseball cfo --
6 madal--
7 oldmansmith2--
8 teamnasty --
9 beesore --
10 Paul_Long71 --
11 Evil Spock --
12 sociophil --
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread
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Round 1:

1 mykbr1 -- Ke'Bryan Hayes, 3B, Pitt
2 dharmabums -- Spencer Torkelson 3B/1B Detroit
3 chilliards --Francisco Alvarez C NY Mets
4 paul j kiggins --Lacy, Asa SP KC
5 baseball cfo -- Austin Martin SS Toronto
6 madal-- Jake Cronenworth, 2B SD
7 oldmansmith2-- Max Meyer SP MIA
8 teamnasty --Victor Gonzalez RP-LAD
9 beesore -- Kristian Robinson OF Ari
10 madal (via Paul_Long71) -- Tristan McKenzie SP CLE
11 Evil Spock -- Drew Waters OF ATL
12 sociophil -- Nick Gonzales 2b PIT

Round 2:

1 mykbr1 -- Heston Kjerstad, OF, Balt
2 dharmabums -- Daniel Lynch SP KC
3 chilliards --Nick Lodolo SP CIN
4 paul j kiggins --Emerson Hancock SP SEA
5 baseball cfo -- Josiah Gray SP LAD
6 madal-- Garrett Crochet RP CWS
7 oldmansmith2-- Corbin Carroll OF ARI
8 teamnasty -- Nolan Gorman 3b STL
9 beesore -- Jordan Groshans SS TOR
10 Paul_Long71 -- Cristian Javier SP Hou (repick)
11 Evil Spock -- Triston Casas 1b BOS
12 sociophil -- Campusano, Luis C SPD

Round 3:

1 mykbr1 -- AJ Puk, SP, Oak --------- REPICK------- TIMED OUT
2 dharmabums --ON THE CLOCK 11:19 am till 2:19 pm est...TIMED OUT
3 chilliards --ON THE CLOCK TILL 5:19 pm est
4 paul j kiggins --
5 baseball cfo --
6 madal--
7 oldmansmith2--
8 teamnasty --
9 beesore --
10 Paul_Long71 --
11 Evil Spock --
12 sociophil --



Not sure dharmabums should be timing out. He sent proxies to the commish according to his post this morning.
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 5:18 pm

Round 1:

1 mykbr1 -- Ke'Bryan Hayes, 3B, Pitt
2 dharmabums -- Spencer Torkelson 3B/1B Detroit
3 chilliards --Francisco Alvarez C NY Mets
4 paul j kiggins --Lacy, Asa SP KC
5 baseball cfo -- Austin Martin SS Toronto
6 madal-- Jake Cronenworth, 2B SD
7 oldmansmith2-- Max Meyer SP MIA
8 teamnasty --Victor Gonzalez RP-LAD
9 beesore -- Kristian Robinson OF Ari
10 madal (via Paul_Long71) -- Tristan McKenzie SP CLE
11 Evil Spock -- Drew Waters OF ATL
12 sociophil -- Nick Gonzales 2b PIT

Round 2:

1 mykbr1 -- Heston Kjerstad, OF, Balt
2 dharmabums -- Daniel Lynch SP KC
3 chilliards --Nick Lodolo SP CIN
4 paul j kiggins --Emerson Hancock SP SEA
5 baseball cfo -- Josiah Gray SP LAD
6 madal-- Garrett Crochet RP CWS
7 oldmansmith2-- Corbin Carroll OF ARI
8 teamnasty -- Nolan Gorman 3b STL
9 beesore -- Jordan Groshans SS TOR
10 Paul_Long71 -- Cristian Javier SP Hou (repick)
11 Evil Spock -- Triston Casas 1b BOS
12 sociophil -- Campusano, Luis C SPD

Round 3:

1 mykbr1 -- AJ Puk, SP, Oak --------- REPICK------- TIMED OUT
2 dharmabums -- Logan Gilbert SP SEA
3 chilliards --
4 paul j kiggins --
5 baseball cfo --
6 madal--
7 oldmansmith2--
8 teamnasty --
9 beesore --
10 Paul_Long71 --
11 Evil Spock --
12 sociophil --
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 5:21 pm

Gilbert was drafted by Paul kiggins last season (rd 3)
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Re: Moneyball Baseball Prospect Draft Thread

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 5:56 pm

Round 1:

1 mykbr1 -- Ke'Bryan Hayes, 3B, Pitt
2 dharmabums -- Spencer Torkelson 3B/1B Detroit
3 chilliards --Francisco Alvarez C NY Mets
4 paul j kiggins --Lacy, Asa SP KC
5 baseball cfo -- Austin Martin SS Toronto
6 madal-- Jake Cronenworth, 2B SD
7 oldmansmith2-- Max Meyer SP MIA
8 teamnasty --Victor Gonzalez RP-LAD
9 beesore -- Kristian Robinson OF Ari
10 madal (via Paul_Long71) -- Tristan McKenzie SP CLE
11 Evil Spock -- Drew Waters OF ATL
12 sociophil -- Nick Gonzales 2b PIT

Round 2:

1 mykbr1 -- Heston Kjerstad, OF, Balt
2 dharmabums -- Daniel Lynch SP KC
3 chilliards --Nick Lodolo SP CIN
4 paul j kiggins --Emerson Hancock SP SEA
5 baseball cfo -- Josiah Gray SP LAD
6 madal-- Garrett Crochet RP CWS
7 oldmansmith2-- Corbin Carroll OF ARI
8 teamnasty -- Nolan Gorman 3b STL
9 beesore -- Jordan Groshans SS TOR
10 Paul_Long71 -- Cristian Javier SP Hou (repick)
11 Evil Spock -- Triston Casas 1b BOS
12 sociophil -- Campusano, Luis C SPD

Round 3:

1 mykbr1 -- AJ Puk, SP, Oak --------- REPICK------- TIMED OUT
2 dharmabums -- Matthew Liberatore SP STL
3 chilliards --
4 paul j kiggins --
5 baseball cfo --
6 madal--
7 oldmansmith2--
8 teamnasty --
9 beesore --
10 Paul_Long71 --
11 Evil Spock --
12 sociophil --
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