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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat
PostSun Apr 19, 2020 6:14 pm

I have created a league for our inaugural season. I realize we have a few issues to still sort out, but I thought getting a start on the first season might be a nice distraction. Here are the divisions:

EAST
sociophil: in
hveed: in
teamnasty:in
baseball cfo: in

CENTRAL
Paul_Long: in
Paul J Kiggins: in
srh1200: in
Madal: in

WEST
oldmansmith2: in
mykbr1 :
dharmabums:
chilliards:

League name is Moneyball 2019 Season 1 PSWD: nutz
Divisional Champs: 2007/2008/2009/2010/2012
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostSun Apr 19, 2020 8:41 pm

BUMP

BE IT PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE ARBITRATION RULE from:

Section 9.10 ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to offer a contract extension. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at his major league salary based on service time or the salary established for his SOMO card for the following season, whichever is higher. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

to

ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to release the player, offer a contract extension, or to renew the player at the Major League Minimum Salary. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at the salary established for his SOMO card price for the following season. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league minimum salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

This change will make arbitration a viable option for team owners by removing the major league minimum salary requirement for arbitration settlements. For example, a player like Jeimer Candelario has a current salary of $610,000 and is entering his arb 1 year where he will have to be paid $2,000,000 next year. The original arbitration rule would not be applicable for Candelario because the team has to pay $2 mil if they win and more than that if they lose. If you want to keep him, you just renew his contract at $2 mil and avoid the risk of arbitration. Under the revised rule, there is a chance his SOM card price will be less than $2 mil. If you gamble on arbitration and win, you would be able to get him at that lower card price.

Owners will then have the following choices for arbitration eligible players:

1. Release the player;
2. Renew the player at his current salary or the major league minimum, which ever is higher;
3. Sign the player to a contract extension;
4. Take the player to arbitration.

If passed, the rule change will take effect immediately.

sociophil: YES (Proposer)
oldmansmith2: YES (Seconder)
Paul_Long71 --
dharmabums -- YES
paul j kiggins --YES
srh1200 --
madal -- YES
teamnasty --
chilliards --
baseball cfo --
mykbr1 -- Yes
hveed --
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostSun Apr 19, 2020 10:48 pm

I have created a league for our inaugural season. I realize we have a few issues to still sort out, but I thought getting a start on the first season might be a nice distraction. Here are the divisions:

EAST
sociophil: in
hveed: in
teamnasty:in
baseball cfo: in

CENTRAL
Paul_Long: in
Paul J Kiggins: in
srh1200: in
Madal: in

WEST
oldmansmith2: in
mykbr1 : IN
dharmabums:
chilliards:
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat
Unread postSun Apr 19, 2020 8:41 pm

BUMP

BE IT PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE ARBITRATION RULE from:

Section 9.10 ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to offer a contract extension. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at his major league salary based on service time or the salary established for his SOMO card for the following season, whichever is higher. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

to

ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to release the player, offer a contract extension, or to renew the player at the Major League Minimum Salary. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at the salary established for his SOMO card price for the following season. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league minimum salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

This change will make arbitration a viable option for team owners by removing the major league minimum salary requirement for arbitration settlements. For example, a player like Jeimer Candelario has a current salary of $610,000 and is entering his arb 1 year where he will have to be paid $2,000,000 next year. The original arbitration rule would not be applicable for Candelario because the team has to pay $2 mil if they win and more than that if they lose. If you want to keep him, you just renew his contract at $2 mil and avoid the risk of arbitration. Under the revised rule, there is a chance his SOM card price will be less than $2 mil. If you gamble on arbitration and win, you would be able to get him at that lower card price.

Owners will then have the following choices for arbitration eligible players:

1. Release the player;
2. Renew the player at his current salary or the major league minimum, which ever is higher;
3. Sign the player to a contract extension;
4. Take the player to arbitration.

If passed, the rule change will take effect immediately.

sociophil: YES (Proposer)
oldmansmith2: YES (Seconder)
Paul_Long71 --
dharmabums -- YES
paul j kiggins --YES
srh1200 -- YES
madal -- YES
teamnasty --
chilliards --
baseball cfo --
mykbr1 -- Yes
hveed --
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostMon Apr 20, 2020 7:37 am

only 2 teams left to load,,,,,,,,,
dharmabums:
chilliard
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat
Unread postSun Apr 19, 2020 8:41 pm

BUMP

BE IT PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE ARBITRATION RULE from:

Section 9.10 ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to offer a contract extension. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at his major league salary based on service time or the salary established for his SOMO card for the following season, whichever is higher. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

to

ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to release the player, offer a contract extension, or to renew the player at the Major League Minimum Salary. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at the salary established for his SOMO card price for the following season. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league minimum salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

This change will make arbitration a viable option for team owners by removing the major league minimum salary requirement for arbitration settlements. For example, a player like Jeimer Candelario has a current salary of $610,000 and is entering his arb 1 year where he will have to be paid $2,000,000 next year. The original arbitration rule would not be applicable for Candelario because the team has to pay $2 mil if they win and more than that if they lose. If you want to keep him, you just renew his contract at $2 mil and avoid the risk of arbitration. Under the revised rule, there is a chance his SOM card price will be less than $2 mil. If you gamble on arbitration and win, you would be able to get him at that lower card price.

Owners will then have the following choices for arbitration eligible players:

1. Release the player;
2. Renew the player at his current salary or the major league minimum, which ever is higher;
3. Sign the player to a contract extension;
4. Take the player to arbitration.

If passed, the rule change will take effect immediately.

sociophil: YES (Proposer)
oldmansmith2: YES (Seconder)
Paul_Long71 --
dharmabums -- YES
paul j kiggins --YES
srh1200 -- YES
madal -- YES
teamnasty --
chilliards --
baseball cfo --
mykbr1 -- Yes
hveed --Yes
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostMon Apr 20, 2020 12:58 pm

I have created a league for our inaugural season. I realize we have a few issues to still sort out, but I thought getting a start on the first season might be a nice distraction. Here are the divisions:

EAST
sociophil: in
hveed: in
teamnasty:in
baseball cfo: in

CENTRAL
Paul_Long: in
Paul J Kiggins: in
srh1200: in
Madal: in

WEST
oldmansmith2: in
mykbr1 : IN
dharmabums: IN
chilliards:
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostMon Apr 20, 2020 1:23 pm

BE IT PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE ARBITRATION RULE from:

Section 9.10 ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to offer a contract extension. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at his major league salary based on service time or the salary established for his SOMO card for the following season, whichever is higher. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

to

ARBITRATION: A player with an expiring contract who has more than 3 years and up to 6 years of service time qualifies for arbitration if the owner declines to release the player, offer a contract extension, or to renew the player at the Major League Minimum Salary. If the owner chooses arbitration the player will be renewed at the salary established for his SOMO card price for the following season. The owner must decline to offer a contract extension prior to the release of the SOM card set for the upcoming season or the player will be automatically renewed for one year at their qualified major league minimum salary as determined in Sections 9.05 and 9.06 above.

This change will make arbitration a viable option for team owners by removing the major league minimum salary requirement for arbitration settlements. For example, a player like Jeimer Candelario has a current salary of $610,000 and is entering his arb 1 year where he will have to be paid $2,000,000 next year. The original arbitration rule would not be applicable for Candelario because the team has to pay $2 mil if they win and more than that if they lose. If you want to keep him, you just renew his contract at $2 mil and avoid the risk of arbitration. Under the revised rule, there is a chance his SOM card price will be less than $2 mil. If you gamble on arbitration and win, you would be able to get him at that lower card price.

Owners will then have the following choices for arbitration eligible players:

1. Release the player;
2. Renew the player at his current salary or the major league minimum, which ever is higher;
3. Sign the player to a contract extension;
4. Take the player to arbitration.

If passed, the rule change will take effect immediately.

sociophil: YES (Proposer)
oldmansmith2: YES (Seconder)
Paul_Long71 --
dharmabums -- YES
paul j kiggins --YES
srh1200 -- YES
madal -- YES
teamnasty --
chilliards --
baseball cfo --
mykbr1 -- Yes
hveed --Yes

Eight owners have voter in favor of the rule change, so it is hereby adopted. I have updated the rule in the Google Spreadsheet. Anyone who wishes to change any contract offers in light of the rule change, please post those changes on the CONTRACT Thread.

I will be editing the rules by reorganizing the sections to make for a clearer presentation for future reference. There will be no changes in the rules other than the newly adopted ARBITRATION rule, although I may add some clarifications.

Phil
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostMon Apr 20, 2020 3:36 pm

Similarly Phil, under the new rule if I gamble on arbitration for a high priced 2019 player, say $8M, his next years salary will be that on his 2020 card right? 10m or 8m or 1M, whatever it is. Yes?
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Re: Moneyball Baseball League Chat

PostMon Apr 20, 2020 7:54 pm

Similarly Phil, under the new rule if I gamble on arbitration for a high priced 2019 player, say $8M, his next years salary will be that on his 2020 card right? 10m or 8m or 1M, whatever it is. Yes?


correct.
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