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i have a abundance of OF's too many looking to trade at least 2 looking for a C and prospect picks
Superkeeper league
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Assigned times for Thursday 4/18
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:55 am
ssigned times for Thursday 4/18
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Re: Superkeeper league
Unread postThu Apr 18, 2024 7:55 am
ssigned times for Thursday 4/18
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm- jet williams, inf, nym
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Re: Superkeeper league
Unread postThu Apr 18, 2024 7:55 am
ssigned times for Thursday 4/18
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm- jet williams, inf, nym
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:51 pm
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm- jet williams, inf, nym
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - 10-11am Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm
4 joker329 - 12-1pm- jet williams, inf, nym
5 FRANKMANSUETO - 1-2pm Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - 2-3pm
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:57 pm
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - 4-5pm
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:03 pm
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - Jared Jones SP PIT
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - Jared Jones SP PIT
9 nythawk129921 - 5-6pm
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:33 pm
2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - Jared Jones SP PIT
9 nythawk129921 - Matt Shw 3B CHN
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - Jared Jones SP PIT
9 nythawk129921 - Matt Shw 3B CHN
10 Roscodog - 6-7pm
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:10 pm
[quote="nythawk129921"]2024 Prospect Draft
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - Jared Jones SP PIT
9 nythawk129921 - Matt Shw 3B CHN
10 Roscodog - Max Clark OF DET
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
2) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.
Round 1
1 edub1969 - Paul Skenes SP PIT
2 the splinter (via MFL536) - Wyatt Langford OF TEX(Proxy)
3 Aray0113 - 11am-12pm TIMED
4 joker329 - Jett Williams SS NYM
5 FRANKMANSUETO - Yoshinobu Yamamoto SP LAD
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana) - Dylan Crews OF WAS
7 baseball cfo - 3-4pm
8 the splinter (via STEVEKORTE) - Jared Jones SP PIT
9 nythawk129921 - Matt Shw 3B CHN
10 Roscodog - Max Clark OF DET
11 joker329 (via fredpaii) - 7-8pm
12 the splinter - 8-9pm
Round 2
1 edub1969 - 9-10pm
2 MFL536
3 Aray0113
4 Roscodog (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 edub1969 (via Palmtana)
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
Round 3
1 edub1969
2 Roscodog (via MFL536)
3 Aray0113
4 baseball cfo (via joker329)
5 FRANKMANSUETO
6 Palmtana
7 baseball cfo
8 STEVEKORTE
9 nythawk129921
10 Roscodog
11 fredpaii
12 the splinter
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